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Some basic tips for password security:



Even better, use a password manager with separate passwords for every website. LastPass is very user-friendly and cloud based, Keepass is very secure cause it's a local database.

You might also want to check your email address against the HaveIBeenPwned database to check if your data was involved in some of the larger well-known data breaches: https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Finally, you might want to enable two factor authentication wherever possible. Put it on your mail account at the VERY least! After all, if a hacker gets access to your email account, they can get access to most of not all of your other accounts.

Hope this helps someone!

Never knew about that website before... turns out I had accounts on two sites that got data breached. lol
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Never knew about that website before... turns out I had accounts on two sites that got data breached. lol

It's very useful information to have, for me personally it's what prompted me to start activating two-factor authentication wherever possible.
A few of those breaches managed to grab a LOT of data, to the point where I actually considered just straight-up changing my email address redface.gif
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The problem with that method is if one website gets hacked, they have access to everything.

True! But I figured that it took 20-25 years before I happened to be hacked... (I got hacked with a stupid 7 letter word with 1 number at the end like: *******3 or so
So now with my 21 digits (letters, capital letters, numbers, special symbels etc) it's much safer compared to the first one smile.gif
And I'm not that paranoid anymore as I was back then when they hacked me smile.gif

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Some basic tips for password security:



You know that the hackers use a tool now that has ALL the words (in Dictionaries) of ALL the languages in the world combined in 1 file? So if they run that file it takes about 7 minutes to check for ALL those words. So if your pasword excist out of hundred (random) words it's like VERY LONG and sounds safe, but in reality they are just words. So they will hack it with that tool in minutes. BUT if you use those random words like "correct horse battery staple" and follow "my guide" it is the same in the end. --> cOrR3ct H0rS3 8@tTery $tAp7E (even if you change 1 letter by 1 number the word does not excist in the dictionary --> c0rrect or hors3 or... you get the point wink.gif )
   
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True! But I figured that it took 20-25 years before I happened to be hacked... (I got hacked with a stupid 7 letter word with 1 number at the end like: *******3 or so
So now with my 21 digits (letters, capital letters, numbers, special symbels etc) it's much safer compared to the first one smile.gif
And I'm not that paranoid anymore as I was back then when they hacked me smile.gif
You know that the hackers use a tool now that has ALL the words (in Dictionaries) of ALL the languages in the world combined in 1 file? So if they run that file it takes about 7 minutes to check for ALL those words. So if your pasword excist out of hundred (random) words it's like VERY LONG and sounds safe, but in reality they are just words. So they will hack it with that tool in minutes. BUT if you use those random words like "correct horse battery staple" and follow "my guide" it is the same in the end. --> cOrR3ct H0rS3 8@tTery $tAp7E (even if you change 1 letter by 1 number the word does not excist in the dictionary --> c0rrect or hors3 or... you get the point wink.gif )

I hate to point this out, but common replacements are the first thing that get checked after single words, and password cracking entropy doesn't quite work the way you say.
Especially when you're using "leet speak" - which is at the very top of the 'common replacements' list - the added entropy of those replacements is VERY limited.
Which is a fancy way of saying it's not really making the password THAT much harder to guess, all it's doing is making it harder to remember for the user.

If you'd like some more background into that comic I've posted, you can find it here:
http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/936

there's a tool listed on that page (http://rumkin.com/tools/password/passchk.php) that checks the entropy of any password you type in, which we can use to compare password strength of a few of these passwords:

itakethebus - 48.4 bits
It@k3th3bu5 - 52.8 bits
It@k3tH3bU5 - 52.8 bits (no entropy added)

correcthorsebatterystaple - 98.1 bits
cOrR3ctH0rS38@tTery$tAp7E - 120.3 bits

Wow hey, you say, that last replacement TOTALLY added a bunch of entropy, right?
Sure it did, but how much harder is it to remember now?

Compared to some other changes you might make to these passwordsM

itakethebuseveryday - 71.5 bits
correcthorsebatterystaplepassword - 126.8 bits

I don't know about you, but which would you prefer to try and remember, "cOrR3ctH0rS38@tTery$tAp7E" or "correcthorsebatterystaplepassword"?
I know which one I would prefer, and it's the more secure one of the two wink.gif
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Well, I understand your theory as well and it also make sence smile.gif

And I did your test with my old and new password:




My old (1 word with a number behind) gets 28.3 bits

My new ("my theory explained above") gets 108.8 bits

So not bad. At least not for me wink.gif And I remember it easy.

But have to admit your theory is WAY easier to remember. Well easier to type... not to remember tongue.gif

It took me a while before I typed it correctly, but now it's as fluid as typing a normal word.

And another issue I have, and not you, is typing my password on a tablet tongue.gif switching between the "keyboards"

EDIT: I see your from Belgium? (May have asked it before tongue.gif but where from?)
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It's a fun tool to play around with and get a good idea of how password entropy works.

As a personal rule, I like to think that should long as your password is above ~50 bits of entropy it should be fairly safe from brute force or dictionary attacks, at least with modern technology.

Other very realistic attack vectors are third party security breaches (having account info compromised by another website where you used the same password) or social engineering.

Ideally you'd want to have different passwords for every single account, but of course that would become very impractical without the use of a password manager. At the very least, I recommend keeping separate passwords you don't use for anything else for your email, your PayPal and anything you have a credit card linked to. These are also the kinds of things I'd personally use two factor authentication for.

Sorry if I came off a bit harsh before, by the way, I didn't mean to thumb.gif

Edit: I'm from Antwerp myself (Berchem actually). How about you? We might have had this conversation before, I think, but it's always very surprising to me to bump into Belgian people on here ^^
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EA Phone Number:

866-543-5435

For what it's worth, their customer support on Origin is actually really good. There's been a number of positive cases posted on OCN over the last few years, and I personally had a great experience on the phone with them as well.

Good luck.

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They should then call you if done correctly.

Look:
Click my link and do this:








This worked for me when I account was hacked in the same way. I hadn't logged in after a couple months and didn't even know it was hacked until one night when I went to play some BF4 with a friend. Anyway, same problem, can't log a ticket because I can't log in. The phone call worked.... took some time (like 10-15min). In the end I needed to find a product key that was activated on my account so they could find it since searching my name didn't work, nor did the email because they were both changed. I activated the 2 step verification where you have a code generator on your phone. That worked, but now is broken because if you wipe your phone you can't just reinstall the program and have access, lol. (I get the itch and swap out my ROM's from time to time) SO now everybody (including me) is locked out until i make another phone call and get that removed.
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tbh, I don't think anyone would brute force or use a dictionary attack on something like a steam/origin/uplay/whatever account (maybe if you're high profile in the gaming world but otherwise...). Those accounts usually get "hacked" by fishing or by trying username/email+password combinations that have been acquired through hacking a more or less unrelated data base.
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Basically regardless of the scientific reasons about what adds entropy and what doesn't.
The bottom line is this, the longer your password is, the better.

Because regardless of if they are using a brute force method, rainbow table method, or other various method of GUESSING your password.
They are gonna start with the shortest stuff first. So the longer your password is, the longer it takes them to #1 get to that length, and #2 each run through the options takes longer as the password increases in length.

Twitch told me one day my password should be more secure (Was just a generic notification). In my spite, I made my password 128 characters long.
The likelihood of that password being guessed by any hacking method is basically null. They would have to get their hands on the password via other methods.
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EA origin worst company ever, will not be buying anything from them ever.
mad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gif


Not their fault you got hacked. Don't use the same password for everything
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