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Its a FACT. AMD is much faster in DX12. You can post anything you want and its not going to change that fact. You can show all the DX11 results and its not going to change that fact as well.

If you feel sad that your favourite brand gets trashed by another brand, not my problem. AMD is SUPERIOR. PERIOD.


Rant much? Olivon brought proof. What did you bring? A rant LMAO. Discuss it like an adult please. No need to YELL and scream we can read you just fine. As that actually takes away from, any point you may try to make.

If AMD was so superior would we be discussing this topic title? Do you know what market share is?
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AMD will reportedly reach record low CPU and GPU market

I hope Polaris comes out on top of the benchmarks. I can say as small as the die is. I doubt that will happen.

Just so you know AMD stock share price is the worst it's ever been, ever.

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Zen hopefully will change things. My next cards are AMD for sure. I really want my next CPU to be as well. I want the underdog to survive.
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The GTX 760, 780, 780 TI, Titan, and the Titan Black were all GPUs that were never offered before.

The 760 was gk104 (same as 660ti, 670, 680 - just cut differently)

The 780, 780ti, titan and titan black were all gk110, which was new to 700 series.
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Rant much? Olivon brought proof. What did you bring? A rant LMAO. Discuss it like an adult please. No need to YELL and scream we can read you just fine. As that actually takes away from, any point you may try to make.

If AMD was so superior would we be discussing this topic title? Do you know what market share is?
I hope Polaris comes out on top of the benchmarks. I can say as small as the die is. I doubt that will happen.

Just so you know AMD stock share price is the worst it's ever been, ever.

Proof
actually the worst days of amd was on 2012 not now...rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

They had GCN 1.2, which they used for several new GPU's in the 300 series. It had some very important revisions like way better texture compression, 4x tesellation performance, improved perf/watt - some of the biggest thorns in hawaii's side.

They had Tonga, but they didn't have any larger GCN '1.2' part other than Fiji. Fiji likely couldn't be cut down and equipped with a GDDR5 memory controller economically, and the relatively mild improvements of Tonga over the earlier GCN incarnations likely didn't justify building a part between Tonga and Fiji.
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Rant much? Olivon brought proof. What did you bring? A rant LMAO. Discuss it like an adult please. No need to YELL and scream we can read you just fine. As that actually takes away from, any point you may try to make.

If AMD was so superior would we be discussing this topic title? Do you know what market share is?
I hope Polaris comes out on top of the benchmarks. I can say as small as the die is. I doubt that will happen.

Just so you know AMD stock share price is the worst it's ever been, ever.

Proof

lmao guy posts day chart for AMD, then claims stock price is the worst "its ever been, ever".

Just so you know you're wrong about AMD (again). Please go look at some stock charts for AMD before posting any "proof".
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lmao guy posts day chart for AMD, then claims stock price is the worst "its ever been, ever".

Just so you know you're wrong about AMD (again). Please go look at some stock charts for AMD before posting any "proof".

 

Well, if you are counting this exact moment in time, it isn't technically the worst it has even been (gone down to $1.67/share). However, if you take his statement to mean that their market performance has been the worst it has ever been....that isn't actually that much of a longshot as it has been sitting extremely low for over a year now. They are about $350million from the lowest market cap that they've had, and have frequently skirted quite close within the past couple of months alone.

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Well, my clan mates and I where just discussing the topic of AMD vs nVidia while gaming friday night. The TS conversation pretty much boiled down to the fact that the few guys we have using AMD gpu's are at the end of their ropes dealing with issues they have. One guy has a pair of 290x cards in xfire and has nothing but problems since day one, mirroring my own experiences with Xfire. His biggest complaint is how long it takes to get xfire support even in major titles. Where my SLI rigs are ready to go on launch most of the time. A recent problem that all of them have had is in Insurgency. All of our AMD gpu users get the same pink/purple and black checkerboard texture errors of various maps. In the same places at the same time every time. They have been changing drivers and working among themselves to figure out a fix. By the end of the night the consensus from all of them, regardless of benchmarks they all plan to go nvidia the next go round.

It's not just benchmarks that are driving AMD sales down. In the case of the GPU market it is the back end support after sale that most people I know have gotten sick of. That is why I stopped using them. That is why many people have stopped using them. Who cares if they get a few more FPS with an AMD card if the overall experience of ownership is worse? Neither side is perfect by any means. But for the most part nvidia does a better job with the ever important software support.
 
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Well, my clan mates and I where just discussing the topic of AMD vs nVidia while gaming friday night. The TS conversation pretty much boiled down to the fact that the few guys we have using AMD gpu's are at the end of their ropes dealing with issues they have. One guy has a pair of 290x cards in xfire and has nothing but problems since day one, mirroring my own experiences with Xfire. His biggest complaint is how long it takes to get xfire support even in major titles. Where my SLI rigs are ready to go on launch most of the time. A recent problem that all of them have had is in Insurgency. All of our AMD gpu users get the same pink/purple and black checkerboard texture errors of various maps. In the same places at the same time every time. They have been changing drivers and working among themselves to figure out a fix. By the end of the night the consensus from all of them, regardless of benchmarks they all plan to go nvidia the next go round.

It's not just benchmarks that are driving AMD sales down. In the case of the GPU market it is the back end support after sale that most people I know have gotten sick of. That is why I stopped using them. That is why many people have stopped using them. Who cares if they get a few more FPS with an AMD card if the overall experience of ownership is worse? Neither side is perfect by any means. But for the most part nvidia does a better job with the ever important software support.

SLi vs CrossFire is literally the only example of such thing, and most people have only 1 GPU anyway.

But the problem is not AMD being "worse" here, it's the difference in philosophy. AMD's CrossFire is much more complex tech, with much broader feature set. Nvidia's SLi is simple and limited, that is why it is easier to support and use without problems.
It's like saying Apple is superior to Microsoft because you don't have BSODs on your Mac. That's just one little shade in a much broader spectrum.

Same goes with drivers. Nvidia's policy is much simpler - just re-write the driver for every new game that comes out. That's why Nv have new versions so much more often, and every game seems "optimized". AMD just use a driver that is more generic and doesn't need to be recompiled every month (since AMD can't afford to pay devs enough to do that), and therefore is not so specific in it's optimizations. From a purely programming standpoint, AMD is doing better on that front, even though to the end user it seems that AMD drivers are badly supported junk.

Also, given how much smaller AMD is than both Nvidia and Intel, and the fact that both Nv and Intel have just 1 competitor when AMD has 2 major ones, it's not a surprise to anyone that AMD's products are crude. Like it has always been, if you want "plug and play", you pay more, you buy Apple / Intel / Nvidia, you plug, and you play without having to think.
If you want better value, better tech, and more problems, you buy Windows (or don't buy Linux wink.gif ), and AMD, and you tinker and do stuff on your own.

For most of us its more fun than games smile.gif
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"AMD will reportedly reach record low CPU and GPU market share soon"...

When? in the Q1/2016 that is not finished yet.
Why? Cause a friend of a friend told that to TweakTown staff

...but before that to happen' AMD claws back some marketshare (in the d-GPU sector at least) in Q4/2015:

"AMD’s Q4 ended with good results as far as their Radeon graphics cards are to be concerned. The desktop discrete Radeon graphics cards saw a 6.69% increase in shipments from previous quarter due to the highly competitive price cuts for their cards in the holiday season along with improved driver support in the form of Radeon Software Crimson drivers. AMD’s notebook discrete GPU shipments witnessed another major blow in Q4 as they didn’t introduce any new mobility Radeon graphics card for the platform leading to a 1.3% decline in shipments"

In the meantime NVidia gains momentum in the notebook sector:

"According to the report, NVIDIA’s desktop discrete GPU shipments fell 7.56% from previous quarter. NVIDIA had captured a good chunk of discrete GPU market with their GPUs on the desktop front so their shipments are expected to fall as demand lowers. On the notebook side, NVIDIA launched a couple of new chips along with the industry’s fastest mobility GPU, the GeForce GTX 980. These new Maxwell powered chips led to the total notebook discrete GPU shipments to see a rise of 34.2%."

http://wccftech.com/gpu-market-share-q4-2015-nvidia-intel-amd/

Of course "Jon Peddie research" is not as trustworthy as that friend of a friend of a guy from TT staff... but still it's a research
Edited by rage fuury - 2/28/16 at 1:16pm
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