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In my talks with AMD, their motto was: "We are going to take our time with Zen to ensure we get it right!". They know it can greatly change the outlook of AMD and in my opinion the entire PC market if Zen succeeds. If Zen succeeds the PC market will also since competition will increase, prices will normalize again, and users can really get more out of PCs.
Honestly if AMD can just get close to Intel I will be happy.....not impressed with Skylake and Windows 10 spying so I have no problem ditching Intel if they keep that up. It might just be for commands for now but I'm done giving companies the benefit of the doubt.
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No excuses, I'm just telling you how things are, as a fact smile.gif you take it any way you wish.

The real fact is that if AMD made a great overall product and user experience, they would not be hemorrhaging money and getting ever closer to failing as a business. Simple facts. User experiences with your product will dictate future sales.
 
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That is a lot of miss-information.

AMD are releasing just as frequent drivers as Nvidia. Both frequent drivers are either betas, or just profile updates. Nvidia drivers are not just copy-paste as you make them to be. Drivers are not just the front end you think you see.

Also, in what way is CFX more "complex" than SLI, or has "broader features"? You do remember that for example SLI works in windowed mode. CFX doesn't. Making SLI simpler, does not mean it has less features or less complex.

While AMD is smaller, it has the huge consoles market which nvidia doesn't have, they have the apple market, which nvidia doesn't have.
And Nvidia doesn't have many competitors? They are trying compete with ARM on the SoC the same way AMD are trying compete Intel with desktops, not very successfully. Do you remember that nvidia pretty much lost the x86 market a while back, pretty much losing a huge market?

BTW, if you have to "tinker and do stuff", it means AMD are doing something wrong. The almost absolute major of the market, does not want to "tinker and do stuff". And TBH, I doubt AMD are trying to make stuff like that.




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The real fact is that if AMD made a great overall product and user experience, they would not be hemorrhaging money and getting ever closer to failing as a business. Simple facts. User experiences with your product will dictate future sales.



Both of these posts are spot on the money. Both earned +1rep. thumb.gif
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Both of these posts are spot on the money. Both earned +1rep. thumb.gif

Wow, these days on OCN people get rep for not knowing stuff. I just forgot about the difference between CFX and SLi too, let the rep rain in.
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Wow, these days on OCN people get rep for not knowing stuff. I just forgot about the difference between CFX and SLi too, let the rep rain in.

What you bring forrward is meaningless in this discussion over market share. The results speak for themselves. I dont really like it but those are the results of poor performance in the market. More people have had the kind of experiances i have had. This has pushed them away. It is not an accident. The only ones to blame are AMD and its leadership. This is all the reasults of the coarse they set long ago. I miss the early to mid 2000's where AMD was a force in the industry. Those days are long gone. The best thing that could happen to them is getting purchased by some one and getting a bit of house cleaning done.
 
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After using the XFX Radeon R9 Fury video card for several weeks we ran into some performance issues that were tough to look beyond. We had Rise of the Tomb Raider crashing and then when playing Star Wars Battlefront we had really bad stuttering issues at 2560×1440 and 3840×1440 screen resolutions. Both of these game titles were not available when we published our Radeon R9 Fury launch article, so the gaming experience we had not was not the same as last summer.
AMD has acknowledged both issues that we ran into today with the release of AMD Crimson 16.2 drivers. If you look at the release notes they have listed what we run into earlier this month as known issues.
Core clocks may not maintain sustained clock speeds resulting in choppy performance and or screen corruption
Rise of the Tomb Raider – The game may randomly crash on launch if Tessellation is enabled
We’ve been talking to AMD about our gaming experience for a couple of weeks now, so it looks like the solution is going to take some time to be corrected. That core clock issue is one that is hard for use to overlook on a video card that costs over $500 to buy. If we spent $529.99 on the XFX Radeon R9 Fury video card and then got choppy performance and crashes on some of the more popular game titles we’d be very upset. XFX did a great job on this card with their custom cooler, but there are issues here on the AMD hardware/software side that needs to be worked on and that is obviously beyond XFX’s control. The crashing and stuttering issues likely apply to all brands that have a Radeon R9 Fury card.
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Until AMD can provide a fix for the clock rate issues at higher resolutions we can’t suggest to our readers that the AMD Radeon R9 Fury video card is worth buying. The stuttering and crashes were pretty severe and we had a better gaming experience on the XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB video card that we reviewed last month. The AMD Radeon R9 Nano and AMD Radeon R9 Fury X samples that we tested also did not exhibit this strange behavior.
If you were interested in this video card we’d highly suggest looking at the XFX Radeon R9 Nano as it costs less and the performance is damn near the same. XFX has a version available for $529.99 or if you don’t care what brand you go with the lowest priced model right now is the PowerColor Radeon R9 Nano at $459.99 shipped.

Legit Bottom Line: The AMD Radeon R9 Fury has a couple minor issues that AMD needs to address before gamers should spend over $500 for one.

http://www.legitreviews.com/xfx-radeon-r9-fury-triple-dissipation-video-card-review_179202/11

Typical bad review RTG was supposed to address. But Raja is no wizard and it will take time (and, of course, money) to compete nVidia in the software side.
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Gotta keep inflation in mind. thumb.gif

Lesser tonga chip didn't happen because they make 1 new chip like every year (and GCN 1.2 isn't much better than 1.0, aside from freesync and tessellation). 7790/260 existed as the test run for 290, 285/380(x) existed for the Fury(x) test run. Can count the number of new GPU chips for AIB-use that AMD made the last couple of years on 1 hand, actually, huh.

inflation yes, but they have to keep in mind that reusing old gen is supposedly to cut cost, not increase price.

this gives me the feeling that AMD doesn't have any proper planning at all.
if we compare them to Nvidia's strategy of using multiple SKUs for different segments, e.g. GM200, GM204, GM206, GM207, etc.
AMD only had like bonaire/Hawaii (2SKUs of GCN 1.1), Tonga/Fiji (2SKUs of GCN 1.2), etc. am i missing something?
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Originally Posted by Prophet4NO1 View Post

Since ditching my 7970's it has been all smooth sailing.

For me its the opposite. I ditch the original Titan and it has all been smooth sailing.
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For me its the opposite. I ditch the original Titan and it has all been smooth sailing.

You would be in the minority.
 
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Rant much? Olivon brought proof. What did you bring? A rant LMAO. Discuss it like an adult please. No need to YELL and scream we can read you just fine. As that actually takes away from, any point you may try to make.

If AMD was so superior would we be discussing this topic title? Do you know what market share is?
I hope Polaris comes out on top of the benchmarks. I can say as small as the die is. I doubt that will happen.

Just so you know AMD stock share price is the worst it's ever been, ever.

Proof

Market share does not determine how superior a product is. Just like cars. Toyota is about the most popular brand on this planet. Are their cars superior compared to Ferrari, Lambo, Aston Martin etc?
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