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If you apply that logic to GPU's, then Titan X is elite. And I have two.

And if you knew cars you would know Ferrari is not known for reliability. Just speed and looking cool. Great to show off in on the weekend. But not what you rely on to get you to the office.

Also, using them in my analogy is a bad choice. As we are talking market shares. Cost means nothing. So, comparing a Ferrari to a Toyota means you lack the understand of the analogy. They cater to very different market segments. People do not buy a passion item for rational reasons. But they do buy utility for rational reasons. My passion car is my 09 RX8, because rotary. But my utility is my 98 GMC truck that is basically bullet proof. The car is not sensible and I would never argue that it is the greatest car ever made. But I love to drive it.

OK, if you want to say they cater to different market segments, the same thing goes for AMD cards. They don't cater to the masses.
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OK, if you want to say they cater to different market segments, the same thing goes for AMD cards. They don't cater to the masses.

They sell a product for the exact same customer base as nvidia or Intel in the respective markets. They all rely on the same pool of customers. The customers run the same software and so on. They are the exact same customer base. Hence, MARKET SHARE. Wow....
 
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IMHO, if Nvidia wants pc gamers to keep buying from it, then it has to start re-focusing its efforts on the consumer graphic segment to provide a better experience for its customers on an ongoing basis, not just for the marketing purposes of launch day benchmarks (you know how it used to be at one point in time, which now seems like a long time ago…lol)
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It is smaller squares in a purple and black checker board. Weapon models get it from time to time too. But when it happens it's only AMD users in the game and happens to ALL of them at the same time. It's really odd.

Yeah that is really odd. Must be some weird texture corruption going on.
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If you apply that logic to GPU's, then Titan X is elite. And I have two.

And if you knew cars you would know Ferrari is not known for reliability. Just speed and looking cool. Great to show off in on the weekend. But not what you rely on to get you to the office.

Also, using them in my analogy is a bad choice. As we are talking market shares. Cost means nothing. So, comparing a Ferrari to a Toyota means you lack the understand of the analogy. They cater to very different market segments. People do not buy a passion item for rational reasons. But they do buy utility for rational reasons. My passion car is my 09 RX8, because rotary. But my utility is my 98 GMC truck that is basically bullet proof. The car is not sensible and I would never argue that it is the greatest car ever made. But I love to drive it.
RX8 not sen.. sensible? That's just blasphemous. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif j/k
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RX8 not sen.. sensible? That's just blasphemous. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif j/k

But I still love it. It speaks to me on a twisty smooth blacktop when those Nitto NT05 tires heat up!
 
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It's pretty simple why AMD will continue to pull head of Nvidia, AMD is benefiting from economies of scale by leveraging its arch advantage across cross platforms. Just as Nvidia was able to benefit from economies of scale in the OEM business, but that business has substantially declined.
It's all about return on allocated capital; AMD gains more in this segment with less effort vs Nvidia.
Simple economics.... Lol
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Market share does not determine how superior a product is. Just like cars. Toyota is about the most popular brand on this planet. Are their cars superior compared to Ferrari, Lambo, Aston Martin etc?
Actually logistically, longevity, and overall brand residual buying, yes Toyota is the superior brand of car. Ferrari, Lambo, Aston Martin make something that is so expensive it gets a lot of looks driving you to the same places at legal speeds that the Toyota Camry delivers you to with out the same amount to rubber neck looks. Not only that but Toyota on average does it for 1/5 less money in terms of purchase and about 1/2 the fuel use and usually have a useful backseat and trunk to put your family in. Now the other 3 can definitely accelerate up the the next stoplight and wait idling for that mom and pop toyota to catch up again before the light turns green. But on average getting from Tuscon Az to Mesa Az is going to take the same amount of time legally driving about 2 hours.
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IMHO, if Nvidia wants pc gamers to keep buying from it, then it has to start re-focusing its efforts on the consumer graphic segment to provide a better experience for its customers on an ongoing basis, not just for the marketing purposes of launch day benchmarks (you know how it used to be at one point in time, which now seems like a long time ago…lol)

I totally agree, although I would argue that the tech media is complicit in this as well. It seems like all we ever get are launch-day reviews and benches and that's it. Why don't they ever go back and retest cards periodically to show how they are progressing since launch? Why are overclocking results always shunted off to the very end of reviews and massively limited in scope compared to the rest of the article? It seems to me that the tech media sites and their testing methods are getting just as stale as the video card manufacturer's marketing tactics at this point. That's the main reason that I rely more on OCN than anything else when trying to ascertain actual, real-world performance for components...
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I totally agree, although I would argue that the tech media is complicit in this as well. It seems like all we ever get are launch-day reviews and benches and that's it. Why don't they ever go back and retest cards periodically to show how they are progressing since launch? Why are overclocking results always shunted off to the very end of reviews and massively limited in scope compared to the rest of the article? It seems to me that the tech media sites and their testing methods are getting just as stale as the video card manufacturer's marketing tactics at this point. That's the main reason that I rely more on OCN than anything else when trying to ascertain actual, real-world performance for components...

Completely agreed.
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I understand people like to talk about Multi-platform support from AMD, however that really isn't panning out. The Xbox One is tanking, the PS4 uses their own OS. Nintendo isn't doing so hot in the console market right now either. Then you have AMD way behind in the PC market.

One game running ASC isn't going to save AMD. The "lead" people are talking about, and think AMD is going to pull off after some long term setup, just isn't going to happen.

AMD will, if it happens, be saved by Zen and amazing showing from Polaris. As the points people keep preaching are actually extremely weak.
    
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