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Originally Posted by Assirra View Post

A person spends time to actually explain and posts information and this is how you reply?
just wow.
true,that's just sad to see on OCN.
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

its to be expected.
on the GPU side, they've been doing mass rebrands ever since 7000 series, the most recent "new" cards are only Fiji based, and the most recent rebrands are even more expensive than their older siblings.

To be fair, some of the rebrands are more like 'refreshes' with increased clock-speeds, memory and the 285s upgraded GCN and colour compression and I believe a slightly lower TDP in some cases.

But yeah, it is getting out of hand. Perhaps a desperate move by them to make it seem (to the less clued up public) as though they're not falling behind rolleyes.gif

With that said, their cards have aged pretty damn well thumb.gif
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This post alone proves you have no idea how the market works. Thank god.

Great comeback. You know you were wrong so you come with this lol.
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Ok, ok. AMD "hammers" NVIDIA in DX12 for right now. What happens when Pascal supports asynchronous computing and then puts AMD back to square one? Frankly, it doesn't matter how badly AMD beats NVIDIA when its GCN vs Maxwell because both Polaris and Pascal is coming out soon. Nobody will be looking at old cards then. AMD's real test is how good Polaris is against Pascal.

AMD blew their chance to counter the 900 series by nearly waiting a year to create a response to it. AMD basically allowed NVIDIA to get a ton of easy sales because they didn't create or make anything new to compete with NVIDIA. When the 300 series came out, it was again the same song and dance with the 200 series with overclocking previous GPUs even more and rebranding them. The series even raised prices. You used to be able to get a 290x for around $330 (making it price competitive with a 970 at least) but now the 390x is $100 more.
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Ok, ok. AMD "hammers" NVIDIA in DX12 for right now. What happens when Pascal supports asynchronous computing and then puts AMD back to square one? Frankly, it doesn't matter how badly AMD beats NVIDIA when its GCN vs Maxwell because both Polaris and Pascal is coming out soon. Nobody will be looking at old cards then. AMD's real test is how good Polaris is against Pascal.

AMD blew their chance to counter the 900 series by nearly waiting a year to create a response to it. AMD basically allowed NVIDIA to get a ton of easy sales because they didn't create or make anything new to compete with NVIDIA. When the 300 series came out, it was again the same song and dance with the 200 series with overclocking previous GPUs even more and rebranding them. The series even raised prices. You used to be able to get a 290x for around $330 (making it price competitive with a 970 at least) but now the 390x is $100 more.

What if Pascal is also missing Async? You know Maxwell v2 aka GTX Titan X is half what Pascal would have been if 20 nm was was there.
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What if

Call me when AMD has more than this to offer... it's been a while
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Call me when AMD has more than this to offer... it's been a while

If Pascal and Polaris are about the same why would people get Pascal? I would think current Nvidia owners with weaker DX12 would not want to get another Nvidia card and 290X/HD 7970 owners would support AMD again.
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What if Pascal is also missing Async?

I don't think this is a very likely scenario. In the event this is the case, it's probably going to mean that NVIDIA built another relatively narrow architecture that won't benefit from async compute much, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's performance won't be competitive.
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If Pascal and Polaris are about the same why would people get Pascal? I would think current Nvidia owners with weaker DX12 would not want to get another Nvidia card and 290X/HD 7970 owners would support AMD again.

"If"s just don't interest me. The last great product AMD delivered at the high end was the 7970, and I bought three of those. If they are able to release a great product again when I'm looking to buy, I'll buy. But I'm tired of seeing their fans (not necessarily you) argue that AMD is actually doing OK and will be better because if this and what if that and maybe this and well in this niche scenario it might be the best etc etc etc
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I don't think this is a very likely scenario. In the event this is the case, it's probably going to mean that NVIDIA built another relatively narrow architecture that won't benefit from async compute much, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's performance won't be competitive.
well I think async compute on Pascal will be "software async", like on Maxwell v2.
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