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If you are happy with Windows 10, that's great, go make a thread about all your favorite Win10 features and why you think it is better than Win7/8.1, but your comment here is not relevant.
Would you be happy if when you installed iTunes, you got pop-ups all over your desktop saying "Sell this PC, buy a MAC and get OSX today!", i don't think you would, you know Macs exist, you know OSX exists, you don't need to be constantly reminded.

This isn't Windows 10 bashing, this is "Microsoft Malware for Windows 7 and 8.1" bashing. NOBODY likes popup ads, they are annoying, and generally uninformative, and you have to actively clear them off your screen. Nobody WANTS that experience from a PC. Microsoft is forcing an app onto our computers that behaves like some malware people will use av scanners to remove (saying that though, I've never had it on my rigs, managed to keep it off up until now, hoping i don't go home to a GWX computer this afternoon like OP). They are making the windows 7 and 8.1 experience more frustrating. Even if it is only a little, they are still actively doing it.

People are aware of Windows10, we don't need a reminder every time we use our computers.

Funny considering I didn't have any of those problems with Windows 7. On Windows 10 now and I'm loving it, no problems whatsoever. Turned off location and ads for lock screen. So what if they get data on stuff I'm doing, with NSA they are probably doing it anyway. You act as if Microsoft doesn't have backdoors in all its operating systems for the government to watch.
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Funny considering I didn't have any of those problems with Windows 7. On Windows 10 now and I'm loving it, no problems whatsoever. Turned off location and ads for lock screen. So what if they get data on stuff I'm doing, with NSA they are probably doing it anyway. You act as if Microsoft doesn't have backdoors in all its operating systems for the government to watch.

You have misread my post, your comment has no relevance to my post which you quoted.
I was commenting on the guy that said we are windows 10 bashing, we are not, we are GWX.exe bashing.
I have windows 10 and 7 (and ubuntu and gentoo and arch linux) multi booted across my multiple machines, I find all of these operating systems to have advantages in different areas, and use them for different things. I have nothing really against windows10 besides having to re-learn where a few things (settings n such) have moved to, which is no big deal and is standard with moving to any new os.
And as I said in my post, I have not experienced these issues either with windows 7, coz i turned windows updates off and got the updates i needed manually.

L2Read

edit: also nothing was mentioned about backdoors in other systems, I was purely talking about the annoyance of a popup ad on the desktop.
Edited by anti-clockwize - 2/29/16 at 6:10pm
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Yeah except Mookster (Post #4 i think) said he had done this and it still made it to his machine. I have winupdate disabled on my machines also, and haven't seen the GWX thing (except on my old laptop, which I don't really care too much about, and have everything enabled/default)

I literally disabled it in windows services. So unless microsoft is going through my PC when it is turned off I don't think they can remotely enable my services.

I do not have updates turned off in the control panel, I have the entire windows update in services disabled.
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I found it, uninstalled it, it re-installed itself and I can't find it again. Kinda reminds me of malware.
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Just disable windows update.

Its that simple.

That would be very unwise unless you are using some other method to deliver updates. And even if you were, it's unnecessary because disabling GWX with the MS-provided registry fix is as easy as disabling WU and carries none of the potential risk.

I have asked repeatedly why people are insisting on taking measures like third-party tools, manually uninstalling/hiding updates and disabling WU, assuming that there must be some good reason for it, but I have yet to receive a single reasoned response. I can only conclude that there is no good reason for taking such measures.
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That would be very unwise unless you are using some other method to deliver updates. And even if you were, it's unnecessary because disabling GWX with the MS-provided registry fix is as easy as disabling WU and carries none of the potential risk.

I have asked repeatedly why people are insisting on taking measures like third-party tools, manually uninstalling/hiding updates and disabling WU, assuming that there must be some good reason for it, but I have yet to receive a single reasoned response. I can only conclude that there is no good reason for taking such measures.

Well the real reason I disabled it was because windows update was taking 25% of my cpu for the past week. Disabled windows update and now I have no problems.

What is the point of running of a service you don't use anyway?

I don't see any advantage to having windows update enabled just so I can be spammed to upgrade to windows 10 plus it no longer randomly decides to use a quarter of my cpu whenever it feels like it.
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I don't see any advantage to having windows update enabled just so I can be spammed to upgrade to windows 10 plus it no longer randomly decides to use a quarter of my cpu whenever it feels like it.

That is the NUMBER one agenda for Redmond now to push Windows 10 across to everyone who runs their ancient OS.

Because the pick up rate for Windows 10 has been stagnant despite the worldwide pushing of their so-called "service " they have to now resort to their time and honoured nastiness of re-introducing previous malware upon the unwary.

Most that don't know anything about their Computers are oblivious about what is currently happening but the experienced and suspicious will always have to keep on the toes when it comes to anything relating to Redmond's updates.

Far better to switch OFF updates altogether, that way you'll be far safer from attracting anymore malware from Microsoft.
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I don't see any advantage to having windows update enabled just so I can be spammed to upgrade to windows 10 plus it no longer randomly decides to use a quarter of my cpu whenever it feels like it.

I can't comment on the CPU usage, as I haven't noticed any such behavior, although the WU checking for updates process has become so bloated and slow that it wouldn't surprise me if there was periodic moderate CPU usage while the PC was idle. However, even if you can't see the advantage of Windows 10 spam, you should be able to see the disadvantage of forgoing all security updates.
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Far better to switch OFF updates altogether, that way you'll be far safer from attracting anymore malware from Microsoft.

Great, avoid Microsoft malware only to open up security vulnerabilities to actual malicious software by leaving Windows unpatched. GWX is unfortunate, but completely switching off updates is a downright stupid way to deal with it if you don't intend to apply security updates by some other means.
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I can't comment on the CPU usage, as I haven't noticed any such behavior, although the WU checking for updates process has become so bloated and slow that it wouldn't surprise me if there was periodic moderate CPU usage while the PC was idle. However, even if you can't see the advantage of Windows 10 spam, you should be able to see the disadvantage of forgoing all security updates.
Great, avoid Microsoft malware only to open up security vulnerabilities to actual malicious software by leaving Windows unpatched. GWX is unfortunate, but completely switching off updates is a downright stupid way to deal with it if you don't intent to apply security updates by some other means.

So now we are downright stupid. Thanks for the compliment.

It is your opinion that it is stupid, not a fact. I'm not sure why you see it as such a bad thing to disable windows update.


Is my life at stake if I don't update windows? What is the worst that can happen? So *knock on wood* I haven't had a virus in a decade and it really doesn't seem like a big deal. Oh noes I have to spend 30 minutes to format/reinstall windows for something that happened to me once 10 years ago.

For your average user, sure keep it enabled. But for us power users, I try to minimize the number of services running at all times. The worst that can happen is a reinstall of windows.
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Windows update on all 3 systems in my home have been turned off since Oct 14 2015,
that was the same time I removed the GWX crap and fixed it in my registry so it will never come back.
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