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I have not launched any of their games for past few years - even the ones I have gotten for free. So from my perspective - nothing of value was lost. Only thing that UBisoft has been producing of late have been the press releases how they will do better for the PC platform. I believe the best way forward, if Vivendy would get the Ubisoft would be just take the IP's and start from a clean sheet with fresh teams on these. And ofc shut down the UPlay wink.gif

Vivendi has literally killed everything it has ever touched. They easily eclipse any evil done by EA, Activision (which for much of it's most hated years were owned by Vivendi), Ubisoft, and just about all other media companies (yes, media, not just games) combined.

Ubisoft might not have been particularly interesting lately, but killing them off entirely and consigning all their developers and their respective IPs to the video game graveyard isn't going to make anything any better.
Edited by Zero4549 - 2/26/16 at 10:48pm
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Vivendi has literally killed everything it has ever touched. Ubisoft might not have been particularly interesting lately, but killing them off entirely isn't going to make anything any better.

It will "free up" the IP's stuck in the claws of Ubi. Meaning that one day perhaps someone else might be able to pick these up and do something of reasonable quality with these. Then again that someone would be probably EA and I'm not thinking of them any better than I do of Ubi.
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It will "free up" the IP's stuck in the claws of Ubi. Meaning that one day perhaps someone else might be able to pick these up and do something of reasonable quality with these. Then again that someone would be probably EA and I'm not thinking of them any better than I do of Ubi.

Vivendi is not known to actually do anything with their IPs. Samey sequels with questionable DRM from Ubi are better than nothing at all, or at best, the occasional half finished and then abandoned game that is completely out of touch with its roots and simply bears the name of a previous great franchise.
Edited by Zero4549 - 2/26/16 at 11:17pm
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It not for everyone. My bother has tried LoL and Dota 2 but loved Heros because of SC2. I am huge into Dota 2 but still like to play it from time to time. Overwatch is going to be amazing. People that are playing it now say its good. I played the Beta and its the same feeling I got when I first started playing Dota 2 and many games I ended up loving.

While it's not for everyone, it still has some issues that are objectively problematic. Whether you can look past em or not is a different story. Of course this is true for any game!

HotS would've just made a better game as 3v3 model and/or with a different type/tuning of rubberbanding (one that'd make level disparities less severe), if it wants to appeal to any sort of competitive crowd, or from a replayability standpoint. Since ones ability to interact with the enemy players is quite gated by design, due to this being 5v5 game with per team level, and we don't want the show to turn incredibly one sided fast, right? Hence there's quite a need to gate how much you can negatively impact the enemy team directly, and it's a core design choice unless they thoroughly revisit the level system. And PvE is so simple that it's ideally about getting your PvEnvironment stuff contested, too. So a lot of the nice map specific objective based gameplay isn't that much about objectives. That's a missed opportunity. (I'd love to play a good co-op game again.)

PvEnemyBase is pretty intelligently done, though, and I like the design choices when it comes to towers/bases and the different methods of putting pressure on the map. (just not the ways to unlock em.)

As for Overwatch, business model from the 90s might hold it back a lot. It has a lot of potential though.
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Ubisoft might not have been particularly interesting lately, but killing them off entirely and consigning all their developers and their respective IPs to the video game graveyard isn't going to make anything any better.

Why would Vivendi buy up lots of Ubisoft shares and then kill Ubisoft?
How can Vivendi profit from that?
     
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This is nothing new, Ubisoft has been getting money from the Canadian government for years, I'm surprised none of you have heard it before.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ubisoft-opening-animated-movie-studio/1100-6165617/

http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/quebecs-10m-to-ubisoft-shows-how-misplaced-provinces-corporate-generosity-really-is

Just two quick articles I found from a quick search. I'm pretty sure every studio they opened in Canada was helped with government grant money.
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Why Canada? I though Ubisoft was French?

French Canada. thumb.gif
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As every threat on OCN , this one has spun out into a Blizzard games before and after show. Cmon guys stick to the main topic at hand
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Vivendi is not known to actually do anything with their IPs. Samey sequels with questionable DRM from Ubi are better than nothing at all, or at best, the occasional half finished and then abandoned game that is completely out of touch with its roots and simply bears the name of a previous great franchise.

I asked you before why do you hate Vivendi, you say it is because they kill off franchises, can you please give some specific examples? As I said before, Blizzard and Activision BOTH launched the bests games on both companies history while being under Vivendi's control, so I don't quite understand.
Edited by Dargonplay - 2/28/16 at 8:58am
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Yes but why Canada?

Because Québec is in Canada and they better ask federal government that pour money everywhere with Justin Trudeau 18 billions deficit than provincial government which is in "austerity" measure (well only for the people because they vote them-self money raise and stuff...).

And why people have so much hate about Québec?
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