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Greetings enthusiasts!

Is it safe to use a 2000VA/1320 Watts (20AMP) UPS on a 15AMP outlet using a power adapter cord?

I'm currently using a 1500VA/900 Watts UPS which I connect my backup RAID towers, monitors, etc...basically everything except my main PC. The obvious reason is that my PC causes the UPS to overload and shutdown due to pulling more than what it's rated for. I used some simple wattage readers and saw that my main PC pulls approximately ~1200 watts on full load. Since any UPS that's rated higher than my current one requires a 20AMP plug, I was wondering if it's safe to just use a 20AMP to 15AMP adapter cord considering that there are no power problems when my PC just connects to a regular power strip on full load. The only time the breaker goes off are when my A/C, hair dryer, and/or microwave start running at the same time.
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Greetings enthusiasts!

Is it safe to use a 2000VA/1320 Watts (20AMP) UPS on a 15AMP outlet using a power adapter cord?

I'm currently using a 1500VA/900 Watts UPS which I connect my backup RAID towers, monitors, etc...basically everything except my main PC. The obvious reason is that my PC causes the UPS to overload and shutdown due to pulling more than what it's rated for. I used some simple wattage readers and saw that my main PC pulls approximately ~1200 watts on full load. Since any UPS that's rated higher than my current one requires a 20AMP plug, I was wondering if it's safe to just use a 20AMP to 15AMP adapter cord considering that there are no power problems when my PC just connects to a regular power strip on full load. The only time the breaker goes off are when my A/C, hair dryer, and/or microwave start running at the same time.

Absolutely not! You would overload the circuit. If you need to get a UPS that large, you need to run a dedicated (connected to only a single outlet) 20A circuit to it. I strongly recommend you hire a licensed electrician to deal with this before you lose equipment or burn your house down.
     
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Absolutely not! You would overload the circuit. If you need to get a UPS that large, you need to run a dedicated (connected to only a single outlet) 20A circuit to it. I strongly recommend you hire a licensed electrician to deal with this before you lose equipment or burn your house down.

Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like it's more trouble than its worth especially when I already did some home modifying/remodeling. Should've taken care of this at the same time but wasn't interested over the cost of the whole process already done. For now I'll just keep my stuff backed up via my RAID towers as usual since they're always off until I find the time to hire an electrician to check things out.
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Absolutely not! You would overload the circuit. If you need to get a UPS that large, you need to run a dedicated (connected to only a single outlet) 20A circuit to it. I strongly recommend you hire a licensed electrician to deal with this before you lose equipment or burn your house down.

Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like it's more trouble than its worth especially when I already did some home modifying/remodeling. Should've taken care of this at the same time but wasn't interested over the cost of the whole process already done. For now I'll just keep my stuff backed up via my RAID towers as usual since they're always off until I find the time to hire an electrician to check things out.

I ran a dedicated line to the 2000VA UPS I used to have (it finally died on me recently and I replaced it with a smaller one that was light enough for my old carcass to lift and carry). Fortunately, I've had experience in house wiring and it was an easy run from my breaker panel to where I needed the outlet since I live in a mobile home and all I had to do was peel back the bottom of the siding to get inside the wall to rout the Romex. The only reason I never became an electrician is I'm colorblind; I did work in warehousing for an electric/irrigation utility for 30 of the 32 years I worked there and took every opportunity to learn what I could from the guys in the trades.
     
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I ran a dedicated line to the 2000VA UPS I used to have (it finally died on me recently and I replaced it with a smaller one that was light enough for my old carcass to lift and carry). Fortunately, I've had experience in house wiring and it was an easy run from my breaker panel to where I needed the outlet since I live in a mobile home and all I had to do was peel back the bottom of the siding to get inside the wall to rout the Romex. The only reason I never became an electrician is I'm colorblind; I did work in warehousing for an electric/irrigation utility for 30 of the 32 years I worked there and took every opportunity to learn what I could from the guys in the trades.

Sounds like you would've made a great electrician. Plus having easy access to your wiring...must be nice! I do have my own concerns though since I do pull a ton of electricity from my room alone. A 15000 BTU window A/C pulling ~800 watts and my entire system on full load pulling ~1300 watts. Luckily the breakers will go off to disrupt any hazards that may occur but it usually won't happen unless something along the lines of power tools being used at the same time during load. I'm probably on the borderline though over the fact that minor one second light dimming occurs when the A/C starts up a cycle. It's not as noticeable until my neighbor starts up their own personal central A/C where each time it cycles causes a more noticeable dimming. I feel like that shouldn't even suppose to happen but what do I know...right? I'm clueless when it comes to home wiring and electricity. If it interests me enough...I could probably research on my own.
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I ran a dedicated line to the 2000VA UPS I used to have (it finally died on me recently and I replaced it with a smaller one that was light enough for my old carcass to lift and carry). Fortunately, I've had experience in house wiring and it was an easy run from my breaker panel to where I needed the outlet since I live in a mobile home and all I had to do was peel back the bottom of the siding to get inside the wall to rout the Romex. The only reason I never became an electrician is I'm colorblind; I did work in warehousing for an electric/irrigation utility for 30 of the 32 years I worked there and took every opportunity to learn what I could from the guys in the trades.

Sounds like you would've made a great electrician. Plus having easy access to your wiring...must be nice! I do have my own concerns though since I do pull a ton of electricity from my room alone. A 15000 BTU window A/C pulling ~800 watts and my entire system on full load pulling ~1300 watts. Luckily the breakers will go off to disrupt any hazards that may occur but it usually won't happen unless something along the lines of power tools being used at the same time during load. I'm probably on the borderline though over the fact that minor one second light dimming occurs when the A/C starts up a cycle. It's not as noticeable until my neighbor starts up their own personal central A/C where each time it cycles causes a more noticeable dimming. I feel like that shouldn't even suppose to happen but what do I know...right? I'm clueless when it comes to home wiring and electricity. If it interests me enough...I could probably research on my own.

Pulling cables through existing S&B (Sticks and Bricks) construction is an art form in itself. I've done a fair amount of it (every home I've lived in, I added more circuits, outlets ceiling lighting, etc.) and it usually involves some surgery to the structure, such as cutting into sheetrock to get a cable to go around a corner. I've even cut holes into the roof to get access to route wiring that couldn't be reached from an attic (it there is even an attic). You have to be familiar with the local building codes to be sure you don't compromise structural integrity (plumbers are notorious for those violations) as well as the electrical codes (cable type and wire size, box size and number of wires allowed in a box, number of outlets allowed on a circuit, splicing restrictions, grounding, etc.). It's a skill one doesn't pickup in a short time, other than for small, specific tasks, like adding an outlet in a room by tying into a nearby one, and there are so many ways one can get into trouble if they don't know what they are doing. Even though my present home is a joy to add wiring to compared to an S&B, it still can be a chore (especially now that I'm a handicapped senior citizen!).
     
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4TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD 4TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD LG 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Inter... COOLER MASTER GeminII S524 120mm Long Life Slee... 
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Windows 7 Ultimate 3 x Asus VG248QE Vizio VO320E 32" TV Logitech G510s 
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Corsair HX750W Antec Two Hundred v2 Logitech M525 with Unifying Receiving Corsair SP2500 2.1 Speakers 
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ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 Channels 24-... LSI 9211-8i HBA card HooToo® HT-CR001 3.5" PCI-E to USB 3.0 Multi-in... StarTech HSB220SAT25B 2 Drive 2.5in Trayless Ho... 
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i7-5930K Haswell-e Asus X99-E WS/USB 3.1 Visiontek Radeon 7870 2GB with 6 miniDisplayports G-Skill Ripjaws 64GB (8x8GB) DDR4 2133 
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Samsung 850 EVO 4TB SSDs Samsung 950 Pro 512GB m.2 SSD boot drive Noctua NH-D15S Cpu cooler Win 7 Ultimate 
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Corsair AX760 Scratch built. Currently under construction at ... Logitech M525 El Cheapo Allsop hard plastic 
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i7-3930k ASUS P9X79 WS MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB... Monoprice 1x2 powered HDMI Splitter 
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Kingston HyperX 32GB (8 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDR... 128GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD 4TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD 4TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
4TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD 4TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD LG 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Inter... COOLER MASTER GeminII S524 120mm Long Life Slee... 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Ultimate 3 x Asus VG248QE Vizio VO320E 32" TV Logitech G510s 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair HX750W Antec Two Hundred v2 Logitech M525 with Unifying Receiving Corsair SP2500 2.1 Speakers 
AudioOtherOtherOther
ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 Channels 24-... LSI 9211-8i HBA card HooToo® HT-CR001 3.5" PCI-E to USB 3.0 Multi-in... StarTech HSB220SAT25B 2 Drive 2.5in Trayless Ho... 
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