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Gabe Newell, co-founder of Valve and patron saint of Steam, has taken to reddit to address the Dota 2 subreddit's complaints about the Shanghai Major tournament currently taking place in China.

"Two things:

1) James. We've had issues with James at previous events. Some Valve people lobbied to bring him back for Shanghai, feeling that he deserved another chance. That was a mistake. James is an ass, and we won't be working with him again.

2) As long as we're firing people, we are also firing the production company that we've been working with on the Shanghai Major. They will be replaced, and we hope to get this turned around before the main event."

This is so surreal.

A billionaire video game mogul publicly calling out an events host for goofing off too much during a tournament.

What a time to be alive. yessir.gif
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I'm no Gaben fanboy, but this is heartening to see; professionalism is important, more so for a burgeoning esports scene desperate to shed the misanthropic stereotype that goes hand in hand with 'gamers'.
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Originally Posted by p4inkill3r View Post

I'm no Gaben fanboy, but this is heartening to see; professionalism is important, more so for a burgeoning esports scene desperate to shed the misanthropic stereotype that goes hand in hand with 'gamers'.

The fans were upset because they share the toxic mindset that some players (ok many players) of this game share.

League / Dota are sociopath attracting games, and letting people make crude sexual or derogatory jokes might be liked, but it's unprofessional.

How can you show anyone with a straight face a game tournament if the host is talking about masturbating to a person in a wheelchair?
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Never understood the Lord Gaben thing.
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All hail lord gaben! May he bless these CS:GO cases with knife unboxings biggrin.gif

I saw this post the other day, pretty funny if you ask me, but Dota 2 isn't my cup of tea, Half Life 3 however.... come on Gaben, throw us a bone!
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Go Gaben, Mobas are seriously overly toxic.

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It's about time. I am glad to see Gabe standing up against these VERY toxic members of the community. To admit that this is unprofessional is a GREAT step forward for the gaming community.
 
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I love how the word "Moron(S)" has been replaced with the word "Toxic". Thats just really being too nice.

Simply put, if you don't view or take your job seriously and you display that to people live then you simply had it coming.
    
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There are two sides to this story and I've read 2GD's side as well. Here's the thing, 2GD didn't really do anything wrong, he's just not meant to be a host or a personality. His humor is quite dry and offensive to many. If taken ironically (which I think was the intention) it's fine. The problem is, this is non-inclusive and perhaps too "edgy." The actual DoTA 2 community is a lot more toxic. It takes a certain kind of person (which unfortunately I am) to spend 1 hour grinding and trying harder than a college exam to win and these people are very defensive and obsessive and yes sometimes crazy and insensitive. His jokes and personality do not appeal to the masses.

As for the Perfect World issue, I wholeheartedly agree. I've never seen a DoTA LAN event with lower production value.
     
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For the comments above who don't seem to be aware of the situation (and other people), go read these

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/47sc46/update_from_the_shanghai_major/d0fa52i
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/47tu4s/statement_from_james_to_valve_and_the_dota2/
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B061Rs4gw4zkCec35Q5v2r576e_Jd6pJfrT_5_GZ74I/edit

Dota community seems to be rallying behind 2GD if anything; he has 3x as many golds on reddit over this and a huge amount of support.
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professionalism is important
I'd also say that Gaben was the unprofessional one, firing him via email through a friend and having "James is an ass" as the first public word about it. In context, that is way worse.

James wasn't told not to do the stuff that he did and some of the little communication that he did recieve from valve was stuff like:
"Just be yourself @ the desk, people like you for who you are".

No matter how you look at the situation, it's very obvious that valve needs to work on their management and communication from the stuff posted in both reddit threads. Just sort by top comments and scroll over the top 50 or so, particularly on the 2GD response thread.
Edited by Cyro999 - 2/28/16 at 12:04am
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