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I have a BenQ XL2420TX 1080p 120Hz 3D monitor that I would assume is already obsolete nowadays. Is 3D still being actively encouraged or is it accurate that it is really non-sense nowadays? I'm using it with the StrobeLight software to eliminate blur as much as possible but this method is also obsolete anymore.

With that said, is it wise to upgrade to a 1080p 120Hz G-sync (non-3D or 3D still?) monitor to achieve the same effect but better? Or should I even get a 1440P one? Do you have any recommendations? Or should I wait for other upcoming monitors to come out? I still feel that 4K monitors are still too "bleeding edge" and would need a lot of GPU horsepower to drive them.
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I wouldn't worry too much about 3D.

Those 670's should do fine with a 1440p Gsync monitor. I moved mine over to my backup rig with a GTX 950 in it and I can play any game I toss at it at 1440p with Gsync enabled and have it run well. Those 670's are much more powerful then my 950.
     
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Thanks for the information. Do I stay at 120Hz or move up to 144Hz? I mean their GSync monitors anyway so frequency should follow fps. The frequency ratings of the monitors are acting as "limiters" in GSync monitors.

I'm so used to 1080p as it is the prevalent resolution for most media. I wouldn't think I can max out the settings on a game, say the new Tomb Raider, on a 1440p screen with my gpu setup, right? I would want a high FPS of course to take advantage of higher refresh rate.
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I'd buy even a 144Hz or 165Hz Gsync monitor if you're worried about gaming performance.

One big limitation on your current setup will be Vram. That will be true at 1080p as well as 1440p. "IMO", I think you should plan for the future when buying a monitor and go with the higher res. 1440p isn't that hard to push. When you do buy a new GPU, assuming it's in the same range as your current GPU's then a single GPU at the range should have no problems handling 1440p.

For high fps 1440p, you're going to have to drop settings.
     
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Ok yeah, that makes sense. So if I was NOT to sacrifice fps, then it would still be good to stay at 1080p specially with first person shooters, right? Let's say I upgrade to a 980ti, it can drive 1440p but it can definitely drive 1080p at an fps that is closer to the refresh rate of the monitor.

When you say that my setup can drive a 1440p, at what range of fps are you or predicting?
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Ok yeah, that makes sense. So if I was NOT to sacrifice fps, then it would still be good to stay at 1080p specially with first person shooters, right? Let's say I upgrade to a 980ti, it can drive 1440p but it can definitely drive 1080p at an fps that is closer to the refresh rate of the monitor.

When you say that my setup can drive a 1440p, at what range of fps are you or predicting?

Test out running 1440p using DSR. See what settings/fps you can pull and if it's something you can live with until you also upgrade your GPU's.
     
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Test out running 1440p using DSR. See what settings/fps you can pull and if it's something you can live with until you also upgrade your GPU's.

Ok, will do. If I decide to stay at 1080p, do you have any GSync 1080p recommendations that you can think of?

And do the prices between 120 Hz, 144 Hz, and 165Hz monitors vary significantly from each other?

EDIT: Oh wait, I realized that 1440p looks good starting on displays that are 27" and higher. I don't have enough room in my computer desk for a 27" screen so I guess I'm stuck at 1080p for the moment.
Edited by kevindd992002 - 2/28/16 at 6:20pm
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Ok, will do. If I decide to stay at 1080p, do you have any GSync 1080p recommendations that you can think of?

And do the prices between 120 Hz, 144 Hz, and 165Hz monitors vary significantly from each other?

EDIT: Oh wait, I realized that 1440p looks good starting on displays that are 27" and higher. I don't have enough room in my computer desk for a 27" screen so I guess I'm stuck at 1080p for the moment.

Best bet for a 24" 1080p 144hz G-sync is the AOC G2460PG, but be wary that the monitor had a revision where they started using a panel with lower contrast ratio and just of lesser quality in general. You can refer to the review at pcmonitors.info as to what the good panel was like in the earlier batches. Then if you look at tomshardware for their review you can see the characteristics of the lesser panel and the measurements they got there. I'm sure there are still some monitors floating around from the earlier batches with the better panel, but theres no guarantee that you will get one of the earlier ones.

I recently sent back the very same AOC monitor because i got the crappier panel in mine that only got me around 750:1 contrast ratio, far from the 1000:1 spec, and i only slightly adjusted the color channels. At default the monitor only was capable of 800:1. The grayscale, and color accuracy were very good however. Gamma tracking left a little to be desired, and my unit had very bad uniformity, in particular the top left corner of the screen was much dimmer than the rest.

You can take a chance with one of those, but i really wouldn't recommend it. The best 24" 1080p 144hz TN out now is the LG 24GM77, but i heard that they stopped production on them so the prices on them will likely increase soon. The only thing the LG is missing is of course G-sync, so if you could live without it then its a solid choice. In general all the gsync TN monitors 1080p or 1440p are fairly lackluster. The more expensive AHVA monitors are better in every way, but they have a tendency to come with backlight bleed, and of course they have some degree of IPS glow which is unavoidable.
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Best bet for a 24" 1080p 144hz G-sync is the AOC G2460PG, but be wary that the monitor had a revision where they started using a panel with lower contrast ratio and just of lesser quality in general. You can refer to the review at pcmonitors.info as to what the good panel was like in the earlier batches. Then if you look at tomshardware for their review you can see the characteristics of the lesser panel and the measurements they got there. I'm sure there are still some monitors floating around from the earlier batches with the better panel, but theres no guarantee that you will get one of the earlier ones.

I recently sent back the very same AOC monitor because i got the crappier panel in mine that only got me around 750:1 contrast ratio, far from the 1000:1 spec, and i only slightly adjusted the color channels. At default the monitor only was capable of 800:1. The grayscale, and color accuracy were very good however. Gamma tracking left a little to be desired, and my unit had very bad uniformity, in particular the top left corner of the screen was much dimmer than the rest.

You can take a chance with one of those, but i really wouldn't recommend it. The best 24" 1080p 144hz TN out now is the LG 24GM77, but i heard that they stopped production on them so the prices on them will likely increase soon. The only thing the LG is missing is of course G-sync, so if you could live without it then its a solid choice. In general all the gsync TN monitors 1080p or 1440p are fairly lackluster. The more expensive AHVA monitors are better in every way, but they have a tendency to come with backlight bleed, and of course they have some degree of IPS glow which is unavoidable.

I really would want a G-SYNC monitor so I think the LG will be out of the equation. I'm reading that there are some disadvantages in using the AOC G2460PG. Is the XL2420G any better? Why do you consider the GSYNC TN monitors as lackluster?

EDIT:So I think I narrowed it down to the these three 24" GSYNC monitors:

Acer XB240H
AOC G2460PG
BenQ XL2420G

Which of them is the best though? Why is the BenQ the most expensive among the rest?
Edited by kevindd992002 - 2/29/16 at 2:10am
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I think there is a new acer 1080p gsync coming out soon which supports 180hz. Not to sure but I would wait. I have a Rog swift myself and I'm looking for second monitor for gaming and xbox one.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB241H-UM-FX1AA-001-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B01C05C1OK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456751823&sr=8-1&keywords=acer+xb241h
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