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Silencing even further an already very silent high end gaming pc - 980 ti with Prolimatech Mk-26, 4690k with Prolimatech Genesis, Noctua ~300 rpm fans.

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i have a i5 4690k on Asus Z97-K with Prolimatech Genesis (fanless), EVGA 980 ti SC (reference model) with Prolimatech Mk-26, with two Noctua pwm 1 NF-s12 which can start at 320 rpm and one NF-P12 that starts at around 600 rpm
2 case fans, 140mm NF- P14 redux 1200 rpm that starts at 320 rpm, on the back, but also pushing inside the case, like the front intake, NF-P14, the round frame one, that also starts at 320 rpm. I chose this 2x push in fans because this way i can obtain positive pressure inside the case, almost no dust considering that both of the intakes are filtered and the air is being evacuated through the top, due to air pressure and natural air convection. I chose the Corsair AX1200i psu because it`s fan has never turned on, regardless of how far i`ve pushed the pc, and the Corsair Air 540, even if it isn`t a "silent" case, but it provides lots of unrestricted airflow, which is crucial when i want all the fans under 500 rpm.
As you can tell, ultra silent is what i`m going for. i`ve studied the problem alot, i`ve owned lots of cooling solutions and this one is by far the best one (includind AIO from Corsair). For an example of noise tolerance, i found the NF-A14 PWM to be too loud at 600 rpm and after removing them, the reference 980 ti turbine fan at idle speed (1050 rpm) was the loudest part in my pc. Solved that too with the Prolimatech Mk-26.

After the long story i`m getting to my "problems": i want a dead silent pc in idle. It stays on 24/7 in my bedroom, so when i`m sleeping 1m away from it, i don`t want to hear anything.
For this, i have to completely stop both the case fans and the gpu fans. Very large heatsinks and natural air convection is enough.
I couldn`t do it with the MB bios settings, both chasis fans stay at ~300 rpm, no matter what. I tried to install Asus Fan Mate/expert, but it seems it`s not supported.
2 - so far, the only way to completely stop the gpu fans is by a Scythe manual fan controller, but i don`t want that. i want an automatized system. It is possible with other 980 Ti with custom coolings (msi, evga ACX, etc) so it has to work with my even bigger Mk-26. The GPU stays at~40c in desktop use and i can even play light games (like Dota2) in passive mode, but it reaches 90c and throttles. I would like to set it to passive untill 60c, then fans should auto-start at 350 rpm, then full speed (my full speed is 600 rpm smile.gif ) at 80c. I connected the gpu to the 2 fans via the Y splitter/adapter to mini 4 pin pwm provided in the MK-26 package but the fans speed up to 1050 rpm, like the minimum speed of the small turbine fan. i can`t control them at all with MSI afterburner or EVGA Precision. Will it be fixed with a firmware flash of the gpu to the ACX model? Or can i control it with Speedfan, through a motherboard pwm slot, so that it acts by reading the gpu temeperature, and can i make that custom fan curve i was talking about?
i have 3 fan headers on the mobo. I would use one with Y splitter for the two case fans, one for the GPU and another one on the top for exhaust, when the cpu exceeds 60c.
Within a year, it`s possible to add another 980 Ti and change the motherboard with another one that supports SLI. The next one will be a custom cooled one because two Mk-26, even with Prolimatech Super Sleek fans is a very thight fit. Also, i don`t think i can find a very long and flexible SLI bridge, to go over the MK-26.

Sorry for the long post, i just wanted you to understand the situation completely.

Thank you in advance!
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Speedfan can do what you want smile.gif
 
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well, i can`t seem to make it work. i`ve just installed it, i watched two tutorials on youtube, but it`s very complicated :|
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Yes, it is quite complicated and not so user friendly, but when it works, it works tongue.gif when i get home i'll try and find a good tutorial video for you smile.gif
 
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Not familiar with speedfan's abilities, but do know a simple adjustable thermal switch will work. All it does is on or off a certain temperature. If fans are PWM controlled, all you need to do in use this to turn off the 12v power to fan below threshold temp.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1CH-1-channel-DC12V-Thermal-Relay-Control-Sensor-Temperature-Switch-relay-module-/221578983911?hash=item339722f9e7:g:PB0AAOSwLVZVqcvi
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I preffer a software version, so i can set a power curve based on the rising temperatures.
@Theelichtje, could you help me with TeamViewer, perhaps? smile.gif
And i`ll also call you, while you set my speedfan, so i`ll also learn what to do from now on.
Speedfan should have a "noob interface", for non-PHD in computer science people. Something like the fan controllers in BIOS.
select the fan, select the sensor it should read, then modify the curve as you like, save&quit.
fan 1&2 - Cpu, start at 50c, fan 3x2 - gpu start at 60c, fan 4 - cpu top exhaust, start only at 60c.
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Using a thermal switch only turns the fans off below a certain temperature. As soon as component / temp sensor is above threshold the fan turns on and power to temp curve runs the fan.
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If your have the Asus 9 series, it is actually eay to achieve what your want, just turn all the fan header to DC mode in bios.
For GPU, with adapter,i had been able to control some pwm fan but not all of them. You can use speedfan with those fan on mk26 plugged in mb, speed fan can control those fan base on GPU temp.
Edited by baii - 2/29/16 at 11:38am
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If your have the Asus 9 series, it is actually eay to achieve what your want, just turn all the fan header to DC mode in bios.
For GPU, with adapter,i had been able to control some pwm fan but not all of them. You can use speedfan with those fan on mk26 plugged in mb, speed fan can control those fan base on GPU temp.

from my experience, Asus boards are not actually ideal since they tends to spin up the fan to ensure it's spinning before dropping the speed down to your custom curve. so let's say you have the fan kicking on to 400RPM @ 50C, then the board will spin the fan up to like 1000RPM to ensure the fan is spinning before dropping the speed down to 500RPM. it's designed so that even fans with high starting voltages are spinning before it tries to control the speed of the fan. unfortunately, this will cause the fan to sound like a jet for 2 seconds every time it reaches the temp you set it to start spinning.
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from my experience, Asus boards are not actually ideal since they tends to spin up the fan to ensure it's spinning before dropping the speed down to your custom curve. so let's say you have the fan kicking on to 400RPM @ 50C, then the board will spin the fan up to like 1000RPM to ensure the fan is spinning before dropping the speed down to 500RPM. it's designed so that even fans with high starting voltages are spinning before it tries to control the speed of the fan. unfortunately, this will cause the fan to sound like a jet for 2 seconds every time it reaches the temp you set it to start spinning.

I think it only does that at start up, but the OP going to use speedfan which going to override everything anyways. And DC mode will allow the fan to completely stop spinning.
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