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So I just upgraded my core system and will have all the parts in the next week or so and need a new heat sink for a socket 1151 CPU. Probably a 6600k but maybe 6700k. I've been out of the loop forever since I'm still using the rig in my sig.

Anyways what is the best air cooler?

How are the all-in-one cpu water cooled loops and which ones are decent?

Thanks
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So I just upgraded my core system and will have all the parts in the next week or so and need a new heat sink for a socket 1151 CPU. Probably a 6600k but maybe 6700k. I've been out of the loop forever since I'm still using the rig in my sig.

Anyways what is the best air cooler?

How are the all-in-one cpu water cooled loops and which ones are decent?

Thanks

The best air cooler? It would depend on your needs. Arguments can be made for the NH-D15, Cryorig R1, be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Phanteks TC14PE, Thermalright Macho or Silver Arrow, etc. But, if you aren't looking to do a crazy OC, you may be just as well off with something like a Cryorig H5 for $49.

AiO liquid coolers come in two varieties: Swiftech and EK, and everything else. While the Swiftech and EK pieces can offer better cooling than top end air, they are a touch louder due to having pumps and the fans being at an open part of the case. As for the everything else (Corsair/NZXT/Antec/DeepCool/Raijintek/etc./etc), they are still the same overhyped and overpriced bunk they always were. The best of them have performance in line with top end air....but require being 20+ dB louder to do it, and you need to pay extra for that added noise. So, essentially, Swiftech, EK or don't bother.
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Indeed, 'best' is relative to application .. also very subjective to user's tastes. biggrin.gif
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The best air cooler? It would depend on your needs. Arguments can be made for the NH-D15, Cryorig R1, be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Phanteks TC14PE, Thermalright Macho or Silver Arrow, etc. But, if you aren't looking to do a crazy OC, you may be just as well off with something like a Cryorig H5 for $49.

AiO liquid coolers come in two varieties: Swiftech and EK, and everything else. While the Swiftech and EK pieces can offer better cooling than top end air, they are a touch louder due to having pumps and the fans being at an open part of the case. As for the everything else (Corsair/NZXT/Antec/DeepCool/Raijintek/etc./etc), they are still the same overhyped and overpriced bunk they always were. The best of them have performance in line with top end air....but require being 20+ dB louder to do it, and you need to pay extra for that added noise. So, essentially, Swiftech, EK or don't bother.

Sorry to jump into this thread like this, but what is your opinion on the Fractal Design Kelvin S24 then? From reviews it seems relatively quiet and it can also be expanded like the Swifttech 220X, but is much cheaper than the 220X.
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Sorry to jump into this thread like this, but what is your opinion on the Fractal Design Kelvin S24 then? From reviews it seems relatively quiet and it can also be expanded like the Swifttech 220X, but is much cheaper than the 220X.

I forgot about the Kelvins since they aren't readily available in the US. It falls somewhere in between - it is certainly better than a CLC thanks to the far more effective copper radiator, but does not stack up to the Swiftech or EK. One of the big reasons is the pump, which is also the reason that it is not expandable like the Swiftech. Yes, you can physically expand the Kelvin, but that doesn't mean it is a very good idea. The pump on the Kelvin is a very weak 0.3gpm/1.0m head pressure, compared with ~1.2gpm/2.2m head pressure on the Swiftech. Adding a GPU block and additional rad effectively cripples the Kelvin, while the Swiftech is comfortable with adding 2 GPUs, reservoir and another radiator or two.
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I forgot about the Kelvins since they aren't readily available in the US. It falls somewhere in between - it is certainly better than a CLC thanks to the far more effective copper radiator, but does not stack up to the Swiftech or EK. One of the big reasons is the pump, which is also the reason that it is not expandable like the Swiftech. Yes, you can physically expand the Kelvin, but that doesn't mean it is a very good idea. The pump on the Kelvin is a very weak 0.3gpm/1.0m head pressure, compared with ~1.2gpm/2.2m head pressure on the Swiftech. Adding a GPU block and additional rad effectively cripples the Kelvin, while the Swiftech is comfortable with adding 2 GPUs, reservoir and another radiator or two.

Do you think it's worth saving up for the 220x then, rather than buying the S24 now and adding another pump when or if I add a GPU block and rad? If I knew I was going to be adding a GPU block then the 220x would be the obvious choice, but I am not sure if I am going to have the time or money for that in the future or not for a GPU block, and the S24 is already at the upper end of my original budget.
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@decapitator what case is it going in?
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Do you think it's worth saving up for the 220x then, rather than buying the S24 now and adding another pump when or if I add a GPU block and rad? If I knew I was going to be adding a GPU block then the 220x would be the obvious choice, but I am not sure if I am going to have the time or money for that in the future or not for a GPU block, and the S24 is already at the upper end of my original budget.

It would depend on the price difference where you are. Even on CPU only the H220-X will offer better performance and lower noise. Where the Kelvin at the high end of my budget, I would probably be more apt to go air. But, I value noise/performance and cost/performance more than most.
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It would depend on the price difference where you are. Even on CPU only the H220-X will offer better performance and lower noise. Where the Kelvin at the high end of my budget, I would probably be more apt to go air. But, I value noise/performance and cost/performance more than most.

Air probably makes more sense, but I just really don't like the look of those big bulky heatsinks. I wish I could find something like the Cryorig C1, but a bit larger, but not as large as something like the BeQuiet Dark Rock TF. I love the looks of the C1, and it would fit in perfectly with the build I'm working on but I don't think it has the cooling performance I'm looking for.

Guess I'll just have to compromise somewhere.
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Air probably makes more sense, but I just really don't like the look of those big bulky heatsinks. I wish I could find something like the Cryorig C1, but a bit larger, but not as large as something like the BeQuiet Dark Rock TF. I love the looks of the C1, and it would fit in perfectly with the build I'm working on but I don't think it has the cooling performance I'm looking for.

Guess I'll just have to compromise somewhere.
I have not used the C1, but at a guess it will do what you want. Especially if you pay attention to airflow and make sure it's intake air is within a few degrees of room temp. My experience with pancake / downflow coolers is they generally work better with fan pulling than pushing. Reasoning is rather simple.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/0_20#post_22323763

Follow the airflow guide in post #5 of that thread and you should be fine.

What case are you thinking of using?
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