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Hey guys first post here and am a first time builder so go easy.

I have had an old PC laying around for quite some time. I have decided to pull it out and turn it into a bit of a gaming rig. I'm not expecting to run games at max settings and expect 60fps, but would like it to be somewhat decent. Now the specs on it is as follows;

Intel i5 2500 (non k redface.gif)
ASRock H61M/U3S3
No GPU (intel HD2000 integrated)
8G Ram (no idea what sort)
1TB HDD
Not sure what case it is, but it is decent and has a front LED panel with temps.

So what I want to know is if I am on the track with going down this build. I am trying to base it around the i5, my plan is to end up with something like;

Intel i5 2500
Asus P67 Sabertooth
GeForce GTX970
G Skill RipJaws X 8gb 2x4gb (1600?/1866?)
Cooler Master Hyper 212

Would this be a decent place to start? I have been doing a lot of reading and trying to piece together something that would at least get me started. I obviously want to try and overclock the i5 a little bit. I know the 2500k would be a better option to overclock as it can be lifted higher but I think overclocking the non k should be fine. Any other suggestions I should be looking at?

Thanks in advance thumb.gif
post #2 of 31
Hey FireOath,

Glad to hear your going for a light gaming rig! biggrin.gif

So in my opinion, since you don't have a K series I wouldn't even bother upgrading the Motherboard as it supports all the needs your looking for in a budget build; moving onto the GPU, I think that's a SOLID choice (in my opinion it's not so much of a budget GPU but a mid-tier card that most definitely holds it's own in most new titles, especially 1080p). I would get a cheap set of whatever 8GB 1600MHz kit you find (G. Skill, Patriot, Corsair, Team, etc. are all solid brands, basically anything with a decent review) on sale. The Hyper 212 is a SOUND choice and definitely a cheap option yet quality product to own to keep those temperatures down.

Grammar may be fcked up, I'm tired redface.gif
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post #3 of 31
This is a prebuilt I assume, what is the make and model of the power supply?

Assuming the PSU is O.K Id probably just put in a graphics card a 970 or an AMD 390, it would be a huge upgrade already. Then see how you felt things were.

You can check your RAM speed in the BIOS or by downloading CPUZ

Check to see what RAM you have in the memory tab and remember to double the value there to give your true speed, so 800mhz shown would be 1600mhz already.
post #4 of 31
Thread Starter 
Firstly, thanks for the link +1 repz.
Secondly, sorry for the ****ty iPhone pics, was in a rush before work this morning and as such I didnt get a chance to have a look at PSU, will do that tonight.

Alright so theres a few points that I can see.
1. Ram can go to make way for something a bit better quality
2. GPU obviously needed, as said before looking at GTX970
3. What does the bench test mean? I'm guessing I didn't just clock the CPU at 4.3Ghz did I?
4. Anything else I should be concerned about?







post #5 of 31
You probably will not be able to get much of an overclock on the 2500 (non-K), perhaps 4% at most stable. That won't be a serious problem if you don't play CPU limited games - what games do you play?

Upgrading the RAM to very high clock RAM will only give you limited gains. The reason why is because the Memory Controller on the Sandy Bridge series isn't as good as on Ivy Bridge or Haswell. We say pretty massive gains in RAM speeds going to 22nm I am afraid. The only situation where you should upgrade the RAM is if 8GB is not sufficient for the games you play or for your other needs.

A GTX 970 will be fine for your needs. It runs relatively cool and performs well. Alternatively, an AMD 390 might be worth consideration, although the power consumption is higher, the performance potential (particularly with DX12) may be worth considering.


Yes, I recommend giving us the PSU, especially before upgrading the GPU.

Actually, instead of upgrading the RAM, you may be well served by spending the money on a small SSD, which can improve boot times and for your most used programs, overall system responsiveness.
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post #6 of 31
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Well not really any games at the moment, which why I want to try and get into it. Although, there are a couple of games that interest me, Overwatch looks good and the one I think I will struggle most with is Day Z as it seems to be heavily reliant on the CPU with it not being optimised.
post #7 of 31
Looks like you have your RAM running at 1066 mhz, you could set it to 1333mhz in the BIOS for a quick free upgrade, as its rated at that speed. I believe the maximum on H61 is 1600mhz, but I'm not sure if manual RAM overclocking is possible, if it is then you could even try to get those sticks to work at 1600 C9 by playing with the timings.

I'm very suspicious of your PSU, if its a prebuilt that came with no graphics card its likely to be underpowered and poor quality.

Many years ago I upgraded a pre built pre Alienware buy out Dell XPS with a second hand X1950XTX Graphics card that I bought second hand. It worked O.K for a week and then the card failed. I didnt know anything at all about PSU's then so I just put back in my old X800GTO and carried on. A couple of months later I pushed the power button and it just popped taking the whole system with it.

Jus' saying its easy to discount the PSU but its the thing that supplies power to the whole system, if its bad it can damage all of your components over time, and if it blows its very rarely the only casualty smile.gif
post #8 of 31
A gtx970 is pretty much ideal for 1080p!

A gpu like that will put a significant extra burden on the PSU, basically double the demand of your current system. Given the system specs your starting with, you're almost certainly going to need a new PSU. I would guess you've got a not so great 2 rail 300 watter in there now. A quality (semi)modular single-rail unit in the 400 to 500 watt range is what you want. Less than 400 would be dicey, much more than 500 would be silly.

This list is a little out of date but still useful as a starting point: http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies


> Looks like you have your RAM running at 1066 mhz

Definitely kick that up to 1333 smile.gif
Edited by michael-ocn - 3/2/16 at 11:53pm
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Thanks for the reply guys. So this is the psu, it is 550w but not sure on the quality.

So it looks like from your guys help that a GTX970, some good ram sticks and possibly a PSU is the way to start.
post #10 of 31
Some great advice above. Nah keep the ram, get a good PSU & GPU, consider getting an SSD. Can get new ram later when you decide it's time to upgrade cpu/motherboard
    
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