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Xbox boss Phil Spencer has hinted that the Xbox One will receive hardware upgrades.

Speaking last week at a Microsoft press event, Spencer likened the Xbox One's future to that of a PC, with upgrades to boost performance.

It's a bold statement - and one which appears to end Microsoft's interest in a console which will remain technically static until the company's next generation box comes around.
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"Consoles lock the hardware and the software platforms together at the beginning of the generation. Then you ride the generation out for seven or so years, while other ecosystems are getting better, faster, stronger," Spencer said (thanks, Polygon). "And then you wait for the next big step function.

"When you look at the console space, I believe we will see more hardware innovation in the console space than we've ever seen. You'll actually see us come out with new hardware capability during a generation allowing the same games to run backward and forward compatible because we have a Universal Windows Application running on top of the Universal Windows Platform that allows us to focus more and more on hardware innovation without invalidating the games that run on that platform.

"We can effectively feel a little bit more like we see on PC, where I can still go back and run my old Doom and Quake games that I used to play years ago but I can still see the best 4K games come out and my library is always with me. Hardware innovation continues while the software innovation is able to take advantage and I don't have to jump a generation and lose everything that I played on before."

Microsoft is due to bring Universal Windows Apps to Xbox One


Polygon
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During his Xbox Spring Showcase event keynote last week, Microsoft's head of Xbox Phil Spencer talked about future of "hardware innovation" for the console, similar to the ways PCs evolve.

In a speech to reporters, he said that the Xbox One could see a future in which it is upgraded, rather than replaced by new consoles. Spencer was talking about how Microsoft has sought to align its Windows 10 and Xbox One development activities under the internal "Universal Windows Platform" while offering backwards compatibility for many Xbox 360 games, now playable on Xbox One. He was addressing the concerns of some Xbox One owners that the exclusives destined for that console are appearing on PC, thus eroding the value of owning a console.

But he went much further than merely outlining internal strategies for cross-platform efficiency. He argued that consoles could and should be upgradeable, like PCs, and that the model of generation shifts may be coming to an end.
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Spencer said that Xbox One owners could be offered optional hardware upgrades in the future, that allows the console to keep up with emerging and competing technologies. Such a move would also suggest an end for new console launches.

It appears that the Xbox One Polaris rumors may have had a slight amount of truth to them.

A console that's upgrade-able would be something that's interesting and great to see!
Edited by TopicClocker - 3/1/16 at 6:59am
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Have to wonder whether this means they will drop a "4K upgrade" box that interfaces with the console via the Kinect port. Generally most technical reviewers were appreciative of the faster CPU in the XBone, but concerned about the lack of GPU power vis-a-vis PS4 (crudely speaking, PS4's GPU is roughly a 7870, XBone's GPU is a 7790 on-die with a Jaguar 8-core CPU).

Would fix XBone's major technical deficiency and open up a new market space. Pretty cool.
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Oh snap. I knew it. This is a game changer folks. Isnt the gpu soldered onto the board though on the xbone? How would this work?
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Soldered? Nah, even better: it's on the same piece of silicon as the CPU! And, yes, it's in a soldered BGA socket. But you'd have to swap out the CPU regardless of what you do.

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Have to wonder whether this means they will drop a "4K upgrade" box that interfaces with the console via the Kinect port. Generally most technical reviewers were appreciative of the faster CPU in the XBone, but concerned about the lack of GPU power vis-a-vis PS4 (crudely speaking, PS4's GPU is roughly a 7870, XBone's GPU is a 7790 on-die with a Jaguar 8-core CPU).

Would fix XBone's major technical deficiency and open up a new market space. Pretty cool.

Crudely speaking? Nope, that's exactly right. thumb.gif AMD reused Pitcairn and Bonaire for the PS4 and Xbone, respectively, and disabled two compute units on each. The PS4 should perform about as well as a reference 7850 (860MHz and 1024 cores vs 800MHz and 1152 cores) and the Xbone is an R7 260 or 360 with, like, a quarter the memory bandwidth.

It would be interesting to see how this plays out. This kind of halfway upgrade isn't completely new. Nintendo released the GameBoy Color, and with a few exceptions, GBC games could be played on the original GameBoy. And now, like 15 years later, they have the New 3DS with extra memory and moar coars. I'm not aware of any New 3DS exclusive games, but it's certainly a bit more powerful.
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This could slowly make the Xbox edge out the PS4 in terms of hardware power. Interesting.
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As it stands both sides struggle with 1080p/60 fps. This would be a great step forward to that benchmark. If the upgrade strat comes to fuition, Sony will most likely follow.
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I'm thinking of steam boxes while reading this.
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To date the only exclusive game that requires the extra horsepower of the New 3ds is the Xenoblade Chronicles remake.
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To date the only exclusive game that requires the extra horsepower of the New 3ds is the Xenoblade Chronicles remake.
Binding of Isaac Rebirth on 3ds also requires a New 3DS
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If this is true, they better make a reasonable pricing structure for upgrading all of the existing Xbone owners or else they will have a lot of raging xbone v1 owners and PS4 might get a lot more new customers.
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