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Hi all,

I am in the midst of a proper cleaning of my loop. It's been a long time and well, it needs to be done.

Since I have crappy tubing that came with my XSPC EX 360 kit, I want to get new tubing. This one must of had terrible plasticizes because it just looks god awful.

First off, I don't have any Al or Ni in my loop. Just copper blocks. However, my XPSC compression fittings are black chrome and "apparently" this can be an issue with a silver coil.

This is how my loop looks as of now... mad.gif





Before everyone goes crazy from the crappy quality of the water. First off, I am rarely home. Once I repair this loop and clean it back up, it will probably be dormant for sometime. However, my brother occasionly uses my PC so I rather have it operational while I am gone.

Anyways, the tubing I was looking at was Advanced LRT Flexible Tubing .

In the description of the tubing, it says this

"With the use of different components, materials, fluids, and flow rates, results may vary with the appearance of your tubing. Advanced LRT is designed to work with a large variety of cooling components, however the use of alcohols, Ethylene Glycol and as well as any other harmful chemicals is strictly prohibited and will void your warranty.Tubing will stain if dyed coolants are used. PrimoChill is not responsible for any damage caused by or when using this product. Please use at your own risk."

I was going to use Dazmode protector again but it clearly lists it has Ethylene Glycol. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

What other additives should I use then? Most biocides/inhibitors have glycol. If it's just going to get cloudy but not create settlement or debris in my loop, I don't care. The tubing is black so I won't see it. PT nuke is a biocide and not a corrosive inhibitor. Don't know what issue Glycol with this tubing is and I don't know if a silver coil is safe either due to the mentioned above compression fittings.

Help?

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I've been using my loop none stop for 2 years using Red Advanced LRT Flexible Tubing.

I made my own coolant using distilled water (60%), propylene glycol (35%) and Red Line Water Wetter (5%) . You don't need anything else like biocides/inhibitors if you use glycol.

My tubes still look brand new and I don't see any plastesizer on gunk anywhere.
 
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I figured I would just go to an automotive store and mixing Propylene into a distilled water mixture and everything would be ok. However, I don't need a gallon of mixture and it's going to be too costly.

What is the Red Line Water Wetter coolant for?
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I figured I would just go to an automotive store and mixing Propylene into a distilled water mixture and everything would be ok. However, I don't need a gallon of mixture and it's going to be too costly.

What is the Red Line Water Wetter coolant for?

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I would buy the glycol, see my "The Hawaiian Heat Wave" build (in sig). I think it was 750mm for $10 or something.

I used the Water Wetter to eliminate bubbles.
 
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Well if the Propylene Glycol has no negative effects on the tubing, I will look for it. When I first did my loop, I only had bubbles for a few days and then they were gone. Besides, in two weeks i'll be 7000km away from this rig. I just want it to be cleaned up and safe for operation.

If I can get a small bottle locally, I will. Is there any brand you recommend? Well, first off, are you buying pure propylene glycol? Or are you going into an automotive shop / gas station and buying anti freeze containing the propylene gly?

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I bought it from Thermaltake - Pure.

It is on first page/first post. You have the break down of the water cooling components.
 
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I just noticed, sorry.

However, it says Zalman ZM-G200 Coolant 500ML Bottle + Feser Base Biocide & Corrosion Blocker (and Water Wetter).

Edit: So, you'd recommend Zalman 500ml (anti corrosive) + a biocide like Feser Base (anti corrosive and biocide)?

Or is the mixture you recommended, with the water wetter, being used as a biocide too? Because the Zalman coolant appears to be only anti-corrosive.
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Oh yeah, it was Zalman.

I bought the biocide when I was still researching a mix.

I did not use it since the glycol would act like a biocide.
 
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Alright, thanks for all the help.

I guess the main question left unanswered is why the tubing prohibits Ethelye Glycol but for w.e reason, I can't get a straight answer. I've done searches up and down.

The other thing is I can't seem to find a pure mix like the Zalman. I can get Swiftech Hydrx for 4.99 from NCIX. According to the MSDS, it has a concentration of 30 -40% Eth Gly and a bunch of other stuff i'll have to check out.



Edit: The Hydrx is produced with an automotive product. Valvoline to be precise. What a surprise... There are so many contradictory threads on here. If you search anything about Glycol, a lot of people say "Oh don't use automotive solutions with PC components" Even though most AIO units use them anyways. I can get a gallon of Valvoline for 10$ from Walmart... I honestly think this stuff is all a scam. For people who don't do enough research. It was the same with the Dazmode protector. It was just over priced anti freeze.

I'll find a local Propylene, make the mixture so it doesn't inhibit the rate of flow but provides enough protection.

Again, thanks for the help. Your responses forced me to dig further and research more. Not to mention let me know that it will work fine in the LRT tubing.
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