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2/5. It's very likely now that AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol.

Quote from Wikipedia to make this a bit more tech related:
Looking at the board, the board is far larger than a chess board. In chess we have ranks A through H, here we have A through T.

It's interesting to watch another stream of two players talking about what it means now that computers can defeat top players. This must have been the conversation people had when Garry Kasaparov lost. So maybe in 10 years we will have personal computers defeating top players.

gg

Waiting for the day when computers watch us play chess instead.

If true general intelligence is ever achieved I can just imagine the commentary on human games in chess. I imagine it being condescending like: "Yet another dumb and loosing move by another human, what a shame I thought they were doing so well and had a chance." I would pay money to watch that for some reason I don't even know myself. It just sounds fun to watch. Will this be the new "Reality TV" that geeks watch lol
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Go is meant to be the one of, if not the most complex board games ever, and research into Go AI has been a long road. To put this mammoth achievement into perspective, while Deep Blue's computing power could today be emulated with ease with a phone, DeepMind today is using 1202 CPUs and 176 GPUs to beat Lee Sedol.
Edited by dukeReinhardt - 3/10/16 at 3:59am
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If AlphaGO succeeds, the only great achievement left for AI will be Calvinball...
That's something I'd pay to see attempted thumb.gif
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If AlphaGO succeeds, the only great achievement left for AI will be Calvinball...
That's something I'd pay to see attempted thumb.gif

Haha! Yes, an AI capible of wining Calvinball would be truly scary.

That is a big jump in AI even compared to this deep learning but it is possible similar methods of AI would work, there is a lot of work being done on understanding the world. Even knowing what was happening in a game of Calvinball would be hard for a computer right now.
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Alpha go wins the match 3-0 and shows it knows how to handle kos quite well! It was a great game!
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That was truly impressive indeed...
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I don't play Go, so I didn't get most of the stuff. I read that Sedol thought he would totally smoke the computer before the match. It reminds me of what Garry Kasparov felt before the Deep Blue match. Although, at the time Garry hadn't lost in tournament time controls, ever, so he was really quite undefeated at the time. AlphaGo must have gotten much stronger in those 5 months. If it can get this strong in 5 months, surely it can destroy any human in another 5 month's time, although I'm sure the project will dismantle after this match. So, the ideas about Lee Sedol being maybe top 3 instead of number 1 in the world right now, are more or less pointless.

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I don't play Go, so I didn't get most of the stuff. I read that Sedol thought he would totally smoke the computer before the match. It reminds me of what Garry Kasparov felt before the Deep Blue match. Although, at the time Garry hadn't lost in tournament time controls, ever, so he was really quite undefeated at the time. AlphaGo must have gotten much stronger in those 5 months. If it can get this strong in 5 months, surely it can destroy any human in another 5 month's time, although I'm sure the project will dismantle after this match. So, the ideas about Lee Sedol being maybe top 3 instead of number 1 in the world right now, are more or less pointless.

actually he thought based on what he saw 5 months ago, when alphago smoked the us nr.1 who compared to world top is above average (i believe dan 3). so the issue is that the ai did in 5 months progress that normally would take a lifetime to a human and is now beating him a dan 9 player
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Alpha go wins the match 3-0 and shows it knows how to handle kos quite well! It was a great game!

wait isnt this AI set to 7.5? i mean if it had to fight with different setting it would have to go and retrain from scratch
Edited by revro - 3/12/16 at 4:05am
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btw Lee Sedol just won a match with AlphaGo resigning. Doesn't change the fact that AlphaGo won the match but it was exciting to watch. There was even applause the moment AlphaGo resigned biggrin.gif
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btw Lee Sedol just won a match with AlphaGo resigning. Doesn't change the fact that AlphaGo won the match but it was exciting to watch. There was even applause the moment AlphaGo resigned biggrin.gif

Now they need to change its name to BetaGo. :D

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