Overclock.net › Forums › Hardware Vendors › Case Labs › Something Small (and Wicked) This Way Comes...
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Something Small (and Wicked) This Way Comes... - Page 164

post #1631 of 2685
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpnp7 View Post

For the BH2 cages.
Is there anyway you can make a separate accessory (like you made for bh7 extra cage hdd cage) in which instead of the ssd cage area, you can make 2 x vertical hdd's instead? [on it's side not completely vertical, I'm sure you know what I mean: http://www.icydock.com/product/images/mb975sp-b_space_saving.png]. This would enable us to use 4 x 3.5" Hdd's on BH2 which would be just fantastic!
If this feature was somehow implemented or you made a separate accessory for this to work I would buy the BH2 the very next second!

Also, do you have any BH2 builds you can post pictures of?
No Bh2 builds posted by anyone yet, it's mostly bh4 and bh7.

Thanks!


Since the BH2/BH4 bottom cavity is only tall enough for a SFX power supply instead of an ATX, you'd be hard-pressed to fit a SSD or 2.5" HDD on it's edge (even without a special cage for it); definitely not a full 3.5" drive.


edit: note the comparison of the pics you show - the BH2/BH4 only fits 2x HDD high, where the BH7 (which takes a full ATX PSU) can do 3x.
Edited by Xclsyr - 7/2/16 at 6:43pm
post #1632 of 2685
This is what I meant:

post #1633 of 2685
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpnp7 View Post

This is what I meant:


Not enough space. The BH2 and BH4 have a clearence of around ~77 mm in the bottom compartment. Even if you could design a "diagonal" mount for the HDs there is not enough space for 2 more hds in place of the SSD cage in vertical or "diagonal" position as you suggest. In the BH4 you might get away with mounting them horizontally. There are 88 mm between the HD cage and the end of the plate (removing the SSD cage). the other 12 or 13 mm required for a mechanical HD can be obtained from the side of the cage. But be aware of the PSU too...
post #1634 of 2685
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabrielzm View Post

Not enough space. The BH2 and BH4 have a clearence of around ~77 mm in the bottom compartment. Even if you could design a "diagonal" mount for the HDs there is not enough space for 2 more hds in place of the SSD cage in vertical or "diagonal" position as you suggest. In the BH4 you might get away with mounting them horizontally. There are 88 mm between the HD cage and the end of the plate (removing the SSD cage). the other 12 or 13 mm required for a mechanical HD can be obtained from the side of the cage. But be aware of the PSU too...

What confuses me a-lot is why is the BH2 just 1" smaller then the BH4.
Mitx should be much smaller by at-least 5-8" then the matx [bh4] case.
Any reason why they made the BH2 and BH4 mostly exactly the same with the bh2 only being 1" smaller overall despite being a mitx case?
post #1635 of 2685
sorry double-post
Edited by Xclsyr - 7/3/16 at 11:37am
post #1636 of 2685
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpnp7 View Post

What confuses me a-lot is why is the BH2 just 1" smaller then the BH4.
Mitx should be much smaller by at-least 5-8" then the matx [bh4] case.
Any reason why they made the BH2 and BH4 mostly exactly the same with the bh2 only being 1" smaller overall despite being a mitx case?


The reason is for graphics cards. Both a mATX board and mini ITX have the same dimensions from the 'top' corner (when placed vertically rolleyes.gif) through the I/O plate until the first PCI-E slot. The difference starts there - the mATX board has all 4 slots that are available over top of the board, where the only PCI-E slot on a mini ITX board is at the edge, with only 1 slot over top of the board; the second one needed for most GPU will be past the edge of the board. So the only width really needed for mATX vs. ITX is the space for 2 extra slots. The overall depth of the bullet cases being identical likewise is due to what length needed to fit a decent-performing GPU (the MB depth is not relevant here).

CL could have gone somewhat smaller with the BH2, but of what use would that have been for it's intended target: a high-airflow, high performance system in a relatively small package. If you want smaller case dimensions than this then the parts inside have to be compromised and stacked on top of one another - there are plenty of cases available which do that already, but at the cost of heat dispersion which limits things...)
Edited by Xclsyr - 7/3/16 at 11:39am
post #1637 of 2685
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xclsyr View Post

The reason is for graphics cards. Both a mATX board and mini ITX have the same dimensions from the 'top' corner (when placed vertically rolleyes.gif) through the I/O plate until the first PCI-E slot. The difference starts there - the mATX board has all 4 slots that are available over top of the board, where the only PCI-E slot on a mini ITX board is at the edge, with only 1 slot over top of the board; the second one needed for most GPU will be past the edge of the board. So the only width really needed for mATX vs. ITX is the space for 2 extra slots. The overall depth of the bullet cases being identical likewise is due to what length needed to fit a decent-performing GPU (the MB depth is not relevant here).

CL could have gone somewhat smaller with the BH2, but of what use would that have been for it's intended target: a high-airflow, high performance system in a relatively small package. If you want smaller case dimensions than this then the parts inside have to be compromised and stacked on top of one another - there are plenty of cases available which do that already, but at the cost of heat dispersion which limits things...)

If you went with a Bh2 and have a i7 6700k cpu, which air cooler or aio would you recommend for the bh2 case?
I want the best possible air cooler that can fit in that case or the best possible aio cooler.
Also I want the system to be DEAD QUIET.

Which air cooler & which aio would you go for?

Also would you stay with the bh2 for a mini-itx build or some other case?
post #1638 of 2685
For air cooling, looks like many are looking at pancake coolers like the Dark Rock TF. Personally, I think the way the case is designed for airflow front-to-back a small tower design would be better; however it seems like for height restrictions you'll need to stick with cooler with 92mm fans like the Noctua NH-D9L. Really was hoping th Cryorig H7 would fit, but it's just barely too tall mad.gif

Most 240mm AIO should fit on the top bracket above the cpu, Jim even has pics of the EK predator in place - although you'll need to change some fittings to get the clearance you need.



For dead quiet plus performance you'll need a decent-sized case even with an ITX build. If you like the BH2's looks, then go for it. If you want absolutely max performance I could see looking at something with more tower clearance like the Nova X2M, but that is definitely not that small of a case!
post #1639 of 2685
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xclsyr View Post

For air cooling, looks like many are looking at pancake coolers like the Dark Rock TF. Personally, I think the way the case is designed for airflow front-to-back a small tower design would be better; however it seems like for height restrictions you'll need to stick with cooler with 92mm fans like the Noctua NH-D9L. Really was hoping th Cryorig H7 would fit, but it's just barely too tall mad.gif

Most 240mm AIO should fit on the top bracket above the cpu, Jim even has pics of the EK predator in place - although you'll need to change some fittings to get the clearance you need.



For dead quiet plus performance you'll need a decent-sized case even with an ITX build. If you like the BH2's looks, then go for it. If you want absolutely max performance I could see looking at something with more tower clearance like the Nova X2M, but that is definitely not that small of a case!

The Cryorig H7 is 145mm and Bh2 and Bh4 is capable of 143mm.
I am not familiar with case labs company but every other pc case company has a "safety zone" when they advertise their height restriction of cpu cooler's by at-least 5mm.
If that is the same case with case labs company then cryorig h7 should be able to fit. If case labs is exact to the nearest millimeter for their measurements then obviously it won't fit.

In terms of the pancake cpu cooler's ... don't you think they would actually be good? You intake air from the frost of the case and the top 2 fans at the top of the case you have them as exhaust.
So set the pancake cooler fans to blow air up towards the 2 x exhaust fans and it should be good n my opinion.

Does this case's front 2 fans have a filter placed?
post #1640 of 2685
Update... Just waiting on GPU...








New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Case Labs
Overclock.net › Forums › Hardware Vendors › Case Labs › Something Small (and Wicked) This Way Comes...