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Wow, I've only been here for 2yrs.
Grant center has a couple new stores in the mall and all, isn't that bad but not much to do here as I am originally from Calgary so I'm use to having a-lot more friends and people around me doing different things every other day compared to doing nothing here.

As for the case, in your personal/professional opinion if you want to build a LAN box out of the BH2 and would like to use a air cooler or maybe even a AIO.
What are your suggestions for the best air cooler in the bh2 and the best aio in the bh2?
I am aiming for DEAD QUIET build, it should be pin drop silence when i am just surfing the web.
Also want to be able to have the ability to OC the CPU if i ever decide to in the future.

Thanks.

Definitely a personal opinion from me, only vested interest I have in CaseLabs is I absolutely love their cases and plan on hopefully changing our entire set of cases in the living room (so five, I think is the current count) over the next year or so. I've wanted one since the Mercury S8 was announced, although arguably I had fallen in love with the M8 (now discontinued, at least for individual purchase) a few months before that.

Oh man, moving from Calgary to Cold Lake.... Yeah, that would change how a few things feel, that's for sure. Probably as jarring as Edmonton to Red Deer was. I don't really remember the first couple of years there though, as I was pretty young. Last three years I remember a lot of it, but things have probably changed a good amount since then because that was, uhm.... 27 years ago when we moved.

For the EK Predator, Jim took a few photos showing just how close things were: http://www.overclock.net/t/1594644/something-small-and-wicked-this-way-comes/680_40#post_25134178 It isn't world ending, and knowing EK's support if you asked them nicely when ordering they'd probably be more than willing to swap out the stock fittings for 90 degree ones so warranty can be maintained.

When it comes to building a case, my suggestions aren't anywhere near as good as a lot of the others out there since I tend to focus on big giant boxes of DOOOOOOOOM as I prefer the heftier boxes because they look nice on a desk, or next to one. Case in point would be the SMA8 STH10 I'll be upgrading my gaming rig to with a few extras going into it whenever I get the cash sorted out (hopefully soon, because I want to order it two-toned, eeeeep). Performance is also one of my main goals, versus silence, as we usually have a box fan or three running in our place to keep air circulating (I live in a 55 year old apartment complex), and neither myself nor hubby enjoy the place being super quiet. On the other hand, I can't stand the sound of an 8800 GTX's (or was it my GT-S, can't remember) cooler running faster than 70% or so, same with an ACX 1.0 cooler (780 Classified to be precise) running faster than 75-80% as they both get this annoying whine not to mention get rather noisy.

If I were to build a lan gaming rig, with my own personal preferences I'd probably choose the BH4 just because there are a lot more Socket 2011-3 options out there, and the fact that I could put two graphics cards into it. But those reasons would be so I could sneak a v3 or v4 Xeon in there alongside two GTX 960's (or even the new AMD RX480's once more information comes out regarding their POEM@Home capabilities) as when I wasn't out lan gaming with it I'd have it running BOINC 24/7. So, looking at the BH2 due to portability but still high end, I'd probably look at a cooler such as the BeQuiet DarkRock TF as the data from Thermalbench's review shows numbers that look rather promising for what you're looking for, and it's one of the better pancake coolers out there. As for what frontal fans to pair with it, that's a good question as there are tons out there, and I haven't really done any research in that regards (for my own build, I'll be going with either EK F4-120ER's or F3-140ER's - or the Darkside Gentle Typhoons, haven't decided yet - depending on what they're going on)
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So that means no fans are included, no usb etc ... cables with the case, no screws?
Just the case itself and nothing else?

I have never bought from case labs, so no idea what comes with the case.
Typically when you buy a pc case, it comes with a couple fans maybe, and the usb cable, sound cable attached, screws for fans, filter's usually, etc ..

By the look of things, 2xUSB 3.0 and mic/headphone ports are included in the price, as is the "anti-vandal style" power switch. You also get the standard mounting hardware a case would have (motherboard offsets, motherboard screws, HDD/SSD screws, and probably a few other screws/bits and bobs of hardware that I can't think of that would come in the hardware kit. There are also additional accessories like the lighting bars ($14.95 USD extra), which allow you to mount LED lighting strips in a convenient area, but they are not required for the structural rigidity of the case (Jim mentioned when I asked about use for a benching rig that removal of the top half, AIO mount, AND the front wouldn't compromise it's integrity).

Useful items such as fans and filters are not included, as everyone has their own preference for fans (be it amount of air pushed, or even just the amount of noise they make, whether they're having to suck through a filter or not (additional restriction), or if you're trying to make your case gain the ability to move by itself or potentially even hover (Delta fans, lol)), and not everyone runs filters (it's the first thing I rip out of a case, myself, but I can see the value in them).... Other items that some companies tend to include but don't really have any additional function other than additional fluff (such as tiny and slow generic yet branded USB sticks, "We're #1" foam fingers, door hangars, posters, and various "they were outdated ten to fifteen years ago" adapters such as AT to PS/2, VGA to DVI-I, or Four pin "molex" to dual 6-pin PCIe as examples) are also not included. Please note that last sentence was designed to be humourous ^_^;;;;
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Oh okay.
If he was trying to aim for 145mm being able to fit but wasn't able to make it possible....Is he going to be adjusting something about that? Maybe increasing the top area by a few millimeter's? Or this is the final case and won't change now?

Any post that shows him trying the cryorig h7?

The post in question: http://www.overclock.net/t/1594644/something-small-and-wicked-this-way-comes/1060#post_25183610


For the BH4, here's a list of tower coolers I've been thinking about, that should facilitate front to back airflow and low noise.

Cryorig M9i - given the price and cooling nearly on par with the U9S, looks good, and if necessary can add a better 92mm fan, currently my would be my top pick.

Noctua NH-U9S - 1 more heat pipe than the M9i, quite a bit more expensive and of course the unfortunate color of the fans. But quality all around is top notch.

Thermaltake Frio 12 - came across this today and it's specs say 140mm tall so should fit. Definitely would be good to be able to step up to 120mm fan for less noise. Not sure on the quality but seems to cool better than the the older Noctua U9B according to this review. See some mentions of poor backplate mounting system. Add a better fan and might this be the top cooling option that fits a BH4, even with quality issues?
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Air_Cooler/Air_Cooler_/Frio/C_00002336/Frio_Silent_12/design.htm
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/Frio/5.html

Thermalright TRUE Spirit 120M - this is a 145mm tall listed in specs, so probably won't fit, but still would be curious to see it actually tried in the BH4 for fit. It would be my top choice for silent cooler if it were able to fit, it's been tested to cool quite a bit better than the Noctua U9S. Wish I could chop off or pound down the pipe tops 5mm smile.gif
http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/true_spirit_120m.html?panel=1



Are there any other tower coolers that one should look at?
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We don't provide any fans on our cases, and I suspect we never will. Reason being: in general, case fans that come with cases are garbage. If you look at cases that come with fans, those fans cost the company very little for them to produce, but you pay a premium for them when you buy that case.

Enthusiasts never settle for them and always go with their own preference, whether it's GTs, eLoops, Varders, etc.

I myself have a small stock of GTs new in box that are always at the ready for a new build, because I won't use any other fan. I cleaned out my box of "other fans" I collected over the years last fall, and threw out almost 30 fans, all of which came with cases I bought in the past.
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Enthusiasts never settle for them and always go with their own preference, whether it's GTs, eLoops, Varders, etc.

Exactly. Than you CaseLabs for not wasting money, and keeping case prices lower, by not including fans I would never use.
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We don't provide any fans on our cases, and I suspect we never will. Reason being: in general, case fans that come with cases are garbage. If you look at cases that come with fans, those fans cost the company very little for them to produce, but you pay a premium for them when you buy that case.

Enthusiasts never settle for them and always go with their own preference, whether it's GTs, eLoops, Varders, etc.

I myself have a small stock of GTs new in box that are always at the ready for a new build, because I won't use any other fan. I cleaned out my box of "other fans" I collected over the years last fall, and threw out almost 30 fans, all of which came with cases I bought in the past.

Can you suggest me the best filter possible that I can use for the front 2 fans of the BH2 case that would work perfectly with this case specifically?
Thanks.
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Right now, since the case is so new, I can't name anything for certain. I stopped using fan filters years ago. I'm sure Demciflex will be the best solution.
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I personally use Silverstone filters but Demciflex is good also...
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I personally use Silverstone filters but Demciflex is good also...

Can I ask, how did you attach them to the case, and did you place them inside or outside of the case?
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Can you suggest me the best filter possible that I can use for the front 2 fans of the BH2 case that would work perfectly with this case specifically?
Thanks.

IMHO filters are a waste of time and actually hurt more than help!!!
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IMHO filters are a waste of time and actually hurt more than help!!!
I dunno, Ive seen some very dusty computers in my time
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