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While at PDXLan I talked with a guy who had a complaint about the back of his Bullet case being much warmer than the front.

I went and looked at it with him and the problem was easy to spot and correct. The heatsink fan was blowing just as fast as the intakes were, so I adjusted it so that it would run slower. This allowed air to circulate around the heatsink instead of being pushed out. As soon as I did that, ambient temps dropped significantly (cool to the touch) behind the heatsink.

Keep that in mind if going for an air-cooled system, especially with large heatsinks that block a large section of the case from the intakes.

so whats the ratio of the fans..... this is interesting and i know nothing about fan profiles i just run my system fans at 100% dont flame me halp meeee
post #2022 of 2687
If you have control of the fans... you can make it whisper quiet while maintaining great performance. I will say that for the build White Raptor currently... I have 2 in the lower and 2 in the front and lastly 2 on the CPU cooler I am using as a tester to see how far I can push it.

When I go to water cool the White Raptor it will be a total of 6 fans. Below shows a current picture what I currently am using as a setup till I can cool this one down. Hope this gives you a idea and helps show the ratio I am using.



Edited by Rdoxey - 8/23/16 at 9:20pm
post #2023 of 2687
very nice looking good to see white raptor however wasnt exactly the answer i was hoping for.. for example i thought youd say something like run intakes at x rpm or x% and cpu cooler at y rpm or y %
post #2024 of 2687
It varies on the person and what they like...when it comes to the build currently I run mine at the following:

1800RPM Noctua Redux R8 Lower Compartment ---> currently running them at 1000RPM just because things can get pretty hot down below
2000RPM Noiseblocker ---> currently running at 800RPM and ramps up when CPU gets a load
1600RPM Noctua Redux R9 CPU cooler---> Currently running both fans 900RPM and Ramps up as CPU goes under load.

Hope this helps more...sorry about not answering the question but I think this is what you are looking for thumb.gif
post #2025 of 2687
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

While at PDXLan I talked with a guy who had a complaint about the back of his Bullet case being much warmer than the front.

I went and looked at it with him and the problem was easy to spot and correct. The heatsink fan was blowing just as fast as the intakes were, so I adjusted it so that it would run slower. This allowed air to circulate around the heatsink instead of being pushed out. As soon as I did that, ambient temps dropped significantly (cool to the touch) behind the heatsink.

Keep that in mind if going for an air-cooled system, especially with large heatsinks that block a large section of the case from the intakes.

so whats the ratio of the fans..... this is interesting and i know nothing about fan profiles i just run my system fans at 100% dont flame me halp meeee

Never run at 100%, but it also depends on a lot of factors, case design and size, fan placement, layout, and type of fans used.

I prefer to run my intakes faster than my exhaust fans for the pure sake of circulation. If you have an aquaero controller or a motherboard with a good fan controller software, using a curve control helps for when the system is at load vs when it's not. This allows the fans to ramp up their spead accordingly to the heat generated by the system, or slow down when you aren't gaming or rendering, etc.
post #2026 of 2687
I received my BH7 case in Gunmetal today from Titan Rig via Amazon. I can report that it was a pain-free process and the case was well packed including being double boxed. It is rather shocking how small this case is to be able to house an ATX mobo and PSU!!

Unfortunately, I can confirm that the EK Predator 240 will NOT fit with standard 25mm deep fans installed in both positions on the front panel bracket.



It WILL fit with a 15mm deep fan but the pump comes right up against the fan and I would be worried about vibration noise from the pump rubbing.





The Predator 240 fits just fine with zero or one front fan(s) installed, with the caveat that CaseLabs has previously stated that the fittings must be swapped for 90's to allow for good tube routing.

Based on this conclusion, can someone from CaseLabs comment on the feasibility of running the Bullet case with just a single front fan, a Predator 240 setup for exhaust and the pair of bottom 80mm fans setup for intake or exhaust?

Clearly the vastly simpler option for me will be to just use my Dark Rock TF and go with an all air-cooled build at this point. Maybe if EK ever offers a 120mm Predator that could be an option. I see they just announced a 140mm model, so maybe someday. Unfortunately, the 240 is clearly not a good option for the Bullet cases if you want dual front-mounted fans.
Edited by tblake - 8/24/16 at 4:31pm
post #2027 of 2687
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Originally Posted by tblake View Post

I received my BH7 case in Gunmetal today from Titan Rig via Amazon. I can report that it was a pain-free process and the case was well packed including being double boxed. It is rather shocking how small this case is to be able to house an ATX mobo and PSU!!

Unfortunately, I can confirm that the EK Predator 240 will NOT fit with standard 25mm deep fans installed in both positions on the front panel bracket.



It WILL fit with a 15mm deep fan but the pump comes right up against the fan and I would be worried about vibration noise from the pump rubbing.





The Predator 240 fits just fine with zero or one front fan(s) installed, with the caveat that CaseLabs has previously stated that the fittings must be swapped for 90's to allow for good tube routing.

Based on this conclusion, can someone from CaseLabs comment on the feasibility of running the Bullet case with just a single front fan, a Predator 240 setup for exhaust and the pair of bottom 80mm fans setup for intake or exhaust?

Clearly the vastly simpler option for me will be to just use my Dark Rock TF and go with an all air-cooled build at this point. Maybe if EK ever offers a 120mm Predator that could be an option. I see they just announced a 140mm model, so maybe someday. Unfortunately, the 240 is clearly not a good option for the Bullet cases if you want dual front-mounted fans.

I have an i7 4770k, a GTX 780, and an aquaero unit in my S3 running off two intake fans and one exhaust. So, I think the Bullet should be alright in that config that you mentioned. Play around with it and see what you think.
post #2028 of 2687
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

I have an i7 4770k, a GTX 780, and an aquaero unit in my S3 running off two intake fans and one exhaust. So, I think the Bullet should be alright in that config that you mentioned. Play around with it and see what you think.

@XNine - thanks for the quick reply! I would really like to use the BH7 as designed with two front intake fans. That would seem to eliminate the Predator 240 as a viable option. I'm leaning towards returning or selling the Predator 240 before altering it from the stock configuration with 90 degree fittings. The Dark Rock TF is really quiet at the expense of a few degrees of CPU temp vs. the Predator 240. Not sure it's worth the hassle and extra expense to use the Predator 240 over an all air-cooled build. It would be great to build a list of 120mm or 240mm AIO coolers that allow for decent tube routing and the use of both front-mounted fans on the Bullet cases.
post #2029 of 2687
I think that's something we can work on in the future, btw, my intakes are on a 240 rad, just to be clear.
post #2030 of 2687
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I think that's something we can work on in the future, btw, my intakes are on a 240 rad, just to be clear.

@XNine - Ah OK. I'm almost certain the Predator 240 won't fit as an intake on the BH7 but I can try it and see.

The new Alphacool Eisbaer AIO's look interesting and they have a 120mm model in addition to a 240mm. Anyone have experience with those units?
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