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I can see that even though the TN 8-bit pannel does have great colors, it's still not as good as the IPS

lol, no. 1440p TN panels use a very grainy/hazy matte coating and the colors look obviously dull and uneven compared to budget IPS/PLS:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1581181/acer-xb271hu-share-your-experience-and-show-pics/4360#post_24995912
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Though I'm still wondering whether the 1ms to 5ms response time will be that noticeable as I've grown accustomed to my BenQ XL2420T which has 1ms response time.

1ms monitors do not exist. The XL2420T's pixel response times average around 4ms with AMA set to High (premium causes obvious overshoot ghosting):

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-benq-xl2420t-144hz-teil8.html#Reaktionsverhalten
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Is the screen glossy, matte, or semi-matte? I absolutely hate matte screens.

1440p AHVA panels matte coatings can be considered grain free, but they're matte and can't match the vibrancy of a glossy coating.
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Also, the new generation of Freesync is out, with monitors that do 40-144hz or 23-144hz, so is the 27 Fast even worth it at this point for the high price it currently is? thanks!

The only 27" 1440p 144hz AHVA panel which supports the full Free-Sync range properly (the Acer XF270HU's overdrive doesn't work when Free-Sync is enabled) is the Eizo FS2735 which costs three times as much as the 27 Fast 144, and upcoming competitors (AOC & Viewsonic) with the full Free-Sync range will cost twice as much.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 7/15/16 at 6:46am
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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

lol, no. 1440p TN panels use a very grainy/hazy matte coating and the colors look obviously dull and uneven compared to budget IPS/PLS:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1581181/acer-xb271hu-share-your-experience-and-show-pics/4360#post_24995912
1ms monitors do not exist. The XL2420T's pixel response times average around 4ms with AMA set to High (premium causes obvious overshoot ghosting):



Ahh, then I guess the Crossover 27 FAST is the way to go. Thanks.

Have you got this monitor? Would you recommend this monitor for the price? or Are there other options you can think of that are better or similar?
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Just got my crossover 27v freedom, awesome looking monitor! Trying to overclock the thing to 75hz but doesn't seem to be an option in Nvidia Control or Windows, has anyone got the 27V to 75hz?
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Just got my crossover 27v freedom, awesome looking monitor! Trying to overclock the thing to 75hz but doesn't seem to be an option in Nvidia Control or Windows, has anyone got the 27V to 75hz?

Nice! Do you notice any ghosting or any motion blur? How's the input lag? I'm seriously considering buying either the 27v or the 27 FAST.
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Just got my crossover 27v freedom, awesome looking monitor! Trying to overclock the thing to 75hz but doesn't seem to be an option in Nvidia Control or Windows, has anyone got the 27V to 75hz?

You have to create a custom resolution from the nvidia control panel to add the higher refresh rate. It won't appear in the normal list of resolutions.
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Ahh, then I guess the Crossover 27 FAST is the way to go. Thanks.

Man! Why am I so indecisive? lol

I just saw an Asus MG279Q for $439 on Ebay, albeit manufacture refurbished. I was wondering which would be the better choice? Or if not for the price, which is a better monitor? Anyone know? biggrin.gif

I mean, there're not much reviews for the Crossover 27" Fast, so I'm just assuming it would have the same specs as the 27v IPS Freedom plus the higher refresh rate.
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Man! Why am I so indecisive? lol

I just saw an Asus MG279Q for $439 on Ebay, albeit manufacture refurbished. I was wondering which would be the better choice? Or if not for the price, which is a better monitor? Anyone know? biggrin.gif

I mean, there're not much reviews for the Crossover 27" Fast, so I'm just assuming it would have the same specs as the 27v IPS Freedom plus the higher refresh rate.

Since both monitors use the same panel (M270DAN02.3 I think) they are likely to be very similar. I think the asus has hight adjustment and usb 3.0 ports but other than that it is more about your visual preference. You are not likely to get any better guarantee of quality with a manufacturer refeb.

Hope this helps you to be more indecisive although I know how you feel. At the end of the day you just have to take the plunge on something. There is always better around the corner....
post #158 of 380
The Asus has an overdrive option to speed up pixel response, but it might be considered best to leave it on 'standard' anyway.
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You have to create a custom resolution from the nvidia control panel to add the higher refresh rate. It won't appear in the normal list of resolutions.

Thanks smile.gif
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Nice! Do you notice any ghosting or any motion blur? How's the input lag? I'm seriously considering buying either the 27v or the 27 FAST.

Well, I returned the monitor after 3 days due to a stuck pixel, cuz I just couldn't ignore it...

Input lag seems good, like didn't feel that it was sluggish or slower than my ASUS gaming monitor. I saw minimal motion blur, after over-drive is enabled and monitor clocked to 75 Hz it removed the noticeable blur (still a little bit in 60 Hz, even with the over-drive on). However, I also compared this with the PG278q, if you don't want any motion blur, still go with a 144HZ TN panel that sacrifices color accuracy, but feels the best in terms of motion smoothness.
Edited by night8388 - 7/18/16 at 3:22am
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Originally Posted by lordofthehawks View Post

Since both monitors use the same panel (M270DAN02.3 I think) they are likely to be very similar. I think the asus has hight adjustment and usb 3.0 ports but other than that it is more about your visual preference. You are not likely to get any better guarantee of quality with a manufacturer refeb.

Hope this helps you to be more indecisive although I know how you feel. At the end of the day you just have to take the plunge on something. There is always better around the corner....

No, this was extremely helpful. I did not know they had the same panel. Now it's just deciding which feature I prefer and the luck of the draw.
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Thanks smile.gif
Well, I returned the monitor after 3 days due to a stuck pixel, cuz I just couldn't ignore it...

I saw minimal motion blur, once over-drive is enabled and monitor clocked to 75 Hz there was no noticeable blur (still a little bit in 60 Hz, even with the over-drive on). However, I also compared this with the PG278q, if you don't want any motion blur, still go with a 144HZ TN panel, which sacrifices color accuracy for absolute zero motion blur.

I think I'll trade small motion blur for color accuracy. I really want to play Battlefield 1 with good graphics. lol I saw the difference in image quality between the PG278Q and PG279Q and it was obvious to me which was IPS and which was TN.

Now my options are narrowed down to the manufacture refurbished Asus MG279Q or the Crossover 27 FAST. They are pretty much the same. I might just do a coin toss lol confusedsmiley.png
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