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Mass Effect 2 is considered better because:

  • More character development than ME1.
  • More romances than ME1, because this is such a selling point for some reason.
  • From what I understand ME1 was really clunky on consoles and controller, so the dumbed down gameplay of ME2 is actually more popular than ME1's as it functions better on those.
  • AI is far superior in ME2 to ME1.
  • Timing and marketing led to ME2 being easier to find than ME1 and thus more popular.
  • ME3 would have been considered better if its ending was more popular. Perhaps all it needed was the Leviathan and Extended Cut DLCs at launch, although I doubt it. It probably needed a completely different ending.

By the way, Divinity: Original Sin isn't open world either. There definitely is a lot of misconception about this term and like you say Steam tags are highly unreliable.

I think I'll start at 2 and work my way all the way through 3. Thanks for your input.
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I think I'll start at 2 and work my way all the way through 3. Thanks for your input.

Oh no, you gotta start with 1. I didn't mention why some people find ME1 better, and that's the writing quality. ME1 is like a Sci-Fi Lovecraftian mystery, while ME2 doesn't have much to its story outside of character development, and ME3 lets the answers pour in and most people were unsatisfied by the answers. Also, ME1 has the most role-playing elements.

Start with ME1 because ME1 still has great character development, it's a great game, and because Mass Effect is really one game split into three different parts. Skipping ME1 is like missing 1/3 of the game, arguably the best part.
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since when did loading times disqualify a game from being open world? earlier elders scrolls had loading times, would you then say daggerfall isn't open world?

Probably since open world became popular. Since GTA San Andreas maybe? It's not necessarily because it has loading screens, it's because of how many there are and how they aren't seamless loading screens.
 
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has anyone else got any recommendation for Co-Op and / or Story Driven games (ie TellTale)?
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has anyone else got any recommendation for Co-Op and / or Story Driven games (ie TellTale)?

Dead Space 3 has co-op and somewhat decent story.
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Dead Space 3 has co-op and somewhat decent story.
can you do local co-op?
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can you do local co-op?

No, it only goes through Origin from what I remember.
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has anyone else got any recommendation for Co-Op and / or Story Driven games (ie TellTale)?

Co-op with any bit of story focus is rare. Divinity: Original Sin is one; the story isn't a big focus but there's more story than most other co-op games. I don't know if it can do local co-op though, I'll have to check later unless someone replies before then.

Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir is another. It's an even better RPG than Divinity: Original Sin. LAN co-op should be possible.

If you want a story-driven experience somewhat similar to Telltale, Mass Effect and Dragon Age may be what you desire but they have vastly different gameplay obviously. Of course all of these games are listed in the OP, I simply encourage these given your post.
 
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Also StarCraft 2 has co-op now, and Diablo 3 can be said to have 2-to-4-way co-op. You can play both story and adventure mode in party. None of those are local though.
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Also StarCraft 2 has co-op now, and Diablo 3 can be said to have 2-to-4-way co-op. You can play both story and adventure mode in party. None of those are local though.

looking for local co op, thanks anyway thumb.gifthumb.gif
OP, can you create a sub-list/genre that has local co-op please?
also, Portal 1 doesnt have co op biggrin.gif
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@Ithanul Ultima Underworld added under RPG and Dungeon Crawler.

@DoomDash Doom 64 added under FPS

@ronnin426850 Both games added under coop.

@hrockh I might add that on the same list tonight.. Will let you know.


Let me know if I am missing something guys. thumb.gif
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