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In your dream G3258 comes close to 4770K in gaming.

@drBlahMan. Get it. My brother PC also has HD 7970 biggrin.gif with 860K. Play at 1440p and lower setting. This way the CPU will never hold you back.

Didn't say all games.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/70977-intel-pentium-anniversary-edition-g3258/?page=7

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/pentium_20th_anniversary_series_g3258_processor_review,14.html

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_pentium_k_anniversary_g3258_review,14.html

Here they compare a athlon 860k x4 vs the g3258 and the athlon gets blasted.

Some games by 50 to 100%.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/page2.html
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Right no most games do not even run on Dual Core CPUs. Those games you posted these GPUs are within 5-10%. Those are old games. Most are pre 2014. 2015/2016 games are a different story where 4 cores gets fully utilized.
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Right no most games do not even run on Dual Core CPUs. Those games you posted these GPUs are within 5-10%. Those are old games. Most are pre 2014. 2015/2016 games are a different story where 4 cores gets fully utilized.

Alot of these games are mainstream games or very popular ones like the GTA V and witcher 3. And the g3258 wins still wins overall by 15%. In that lineup, the g3258 at worst loses by 5 percent in a couple gamers. In others, it crushes by athlon x4. When your talking about some games being 20% faster, it makes a significant difference in game play experience.

There is no reason to suggest this athlon chip.

If you want to mix newer games, the athlon x4 isn't going to cut it either as we have seen with newer game GPU performance tests. Basically in games where the g3258 isn't cutting the mustard, neither is the athlon x4. It's single threaded performance is too weak. And a person is likely going to need a more powerful cpu, where both the AMD and Intel processor needs to be ruled out and it's why people that want budget box gaming machines have to make a concession the the settings they play on and even the games they play.

Add in that the 880k is double the price of the g3258 and it is simply a bad buy.
Edited by tajoh111 - 3/29/16 at 7:12pm
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It's a decent value proposition when the system doesn't have an iGPU.

$100 can't even get you an i3 at microcenter...

If you go for a G3258 you need to have overclocking-able hardware and cooler ; platform cost is going to more.
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Might as well pick one up and give the 860K to my brother.
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i think the best thing to do is wait for zen or get intel, unless if you guys want a chip for light gaming or multimedia..

the i3 skylake is a bit pricey but they perform very close to i5's(sandy\ivy) in multi threaded games
pentium oc'd will not last long but they have great performance for its price
Edited by jmcosta - 3/29/16 at 9:31pm
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Right no most games do not even run on Dual Core CPUs. Those games you posted these GPUs are within 5-10%. Those are old games. Most are pre 2014. 2015/2016 games are a different story where 4 cores gets fully utilized.

Really? Because I am on a G3258 OC to 4.2GHZ and I can game just fine.

They say they need quad core, but it's an artificial limitation. You edit the regfile and the same games that refuse to install
run fine.

Currently 38% load while dual screen, firefox, playing a movie and a windowed bioshock session.
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It's a decent value proposition when the system doesn't have an iGPU.

$100 can't even get you an i3 at microcenter...

If you go for a G3258 you need to have overclocking-able hardware and cooler ; platform cost is going to more.

The G3258+MSI Z97 PC MATE combo is quite often on sale at MC(have seen the same deal elsewhere as well) for $100...
You dont need exotic cooling, nor beefy motherboard VRMs, its only a 53W chip.

That combo when not on sale is still only $119.
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Any more CPUs from AMD are just a waste of development and manufacturing money until zen comes out.
They can't compete with the huge intel marketing system without an actual good product, even if it is sub 100$ priced.

I hope zen comes out strong so it can push intel to lower prices and bring stronger CPUs instead of steady increments, but overall, AMD desktop market like a drowning man still struggling for that bit of air.
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On my previous build i started out with a 750k, and it ran the crap out of any game i wanted to play. It was my first gaming pc, and it, with a 6950 ran anything i threw at it at 1080p.
I switched to a g3258 ( in the hopes of eventually upgrading to a 4790k, which i have now. ) I overclocked the g3258 to 4.3 ( didnt care to push it further) and it legitimately ran games pretty much the same as the 750k.

I ran star citizen in 1080p, with a g3258, and a 6950 at 1080p. For those of you who say that you cannot game with amd cpus, or more specifically the 880k, here is a lesser cpu playing star citizen just fine. Star citizen is a very demanding early access ( alpha) game. Not optimized yet.

Also, people with the fx 6300 play the game just fine in 1080p. (youll need to watch it on youtube.)
880k is has similar multi core perf as the fx 6300 and stronger single core perf. it IS a viable gaming cpu if youre planning on sticking with 1080p.

I wouldnt recommend getting it for 1440p gaming, or especially 4k gaming. But for someone with a budget, AMD has some decent cpus.
Especially if youre coming from an older cpu on the fm2+ platform.
Edited by Bambam625 - 3/29/16 at 11:18pm
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