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I wouldn't bother with cards so weak. I have a 6850 and several GTX 570s I don't run due to their performance compared to newer cards.

Also remember those Intel boards cannot accept a full length 16x card w/o a riser cable.
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I can't speak to everything, but at FAH a 750ti is worth from 60 - 80k PPD depending on work unit, I have a shinny new RX 470 that got 242k on the first WU I did, we will see how it fairs in the Foldathon.  I have a 750ti and 470 in the same Windows 10 rig, once the Foldathon is over I can run a few work units of the projects you are interested in.

+1 virtual rep first and foremost smile.gif I'm definitely curious as to how they'll perform, although a part of me is thinking I might as well just look into the prospect of a single RX 480 per setup as after a bunch of math I realized with a single card in each of the two setups I could stick to three of the goals I have with this BOINC rig...

- dedicated threads for the two CPU POTM's
- an even integer amount for each project (instead of having threads flip back and forth between projects), and
- a minimum of four threads per project (a subsect of this goal was to increase overall PPD/RAC for my main projects, as with my more recent project configs I've had it so that my bigger ones were usually only having two each)

Sadly some projects didn't quite make the cut when I looked into those three rules being fulfilled (I'll be dropping PrimeGrid and Seti@Home Beta as regulars, for example) but at the same time being able to go from three projects up to eight or nine (and having a reasonable amount of work done for each) is one I'm liking the sound of.

I'm definitely curious about the RX 470 and how it might compare to the data (someone, ack forgot their name!!) was posting for the RX 480.
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I wouldn't bother with cards so weak. I have a 6850 and several GTX 570s I don't run due to their performance compared to newer cards.

Also remember those Intel boards cannot accept a full length 16x card w/o a riser cable.

I had a feeling that a pre-GCN card wouldn't have quite the same staying power. Oh well, they'll get to live in the shadow of my benching rig for a time when they can be truly pushed ^_^

Main reason I had contemplated the HD 6850's in the first place was I already had them, but if it's going to be a case of a decent amount of heat being produced for little in the way of actual work being done I'd rather look into spending the money on new gear (even if the overall goal of this rig is to have 60 threads of cpu and two gpu's across multiple projects for hopefully less than $2k CAD before the case and watercooling is factored in)

As for the bit about not fitting, they'd still work in the 8x slots, wouldn't they? Looks like those slots are open backed, not to mention have locks to hold the card in place.
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Sounds like you have a monster rig planned.

I think buying newer cards would be better. The money spent in electricity to run those cards will be more than the price of buying new ones.
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Sounds like you have a monster rig planned.

I think buying newer cards would be better. The money spent in electricity to run those cards will be more than the price of buying new ones.

Yeah, it'll be a rather fun project... Hoping to have it up for the pentathlon next year, but no full fledged guarantees due to power circuits in our place as well as other projects may or may not take priority (we really do need new monitors, plus something to replace the couch, etc). The custom Parvum case will be rather gorgeous (once I get more things written out and I have some of the cash ready I'll actually talk to them about it), though I'm not looking forward to the bill, or the bill for the watercooling (six water blocks total? Yeouch)

I definitely agree on the cards... Sure, it's $650-700 CAD for the two RX 480's and an additional estimated 60 watts of power consumed.... But each card has easily 4-8x the crunching power depending on the project. RX 480 would definitely be a lot more efficient with things, not to mention Watercool is making Heatkiller blocks for it, potentially XL ones too.
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+1 virtual rep first and foremost smile.gif I'm definitely curious as to how they'll perform, although a part of me is thinking I might as well just look into the prospect of a single RX 480 per setup as after a bunch of math I realized with a single card in each of the two setups I could stick to three of the goals I have with this BOINC rig...

- dedicated threads for the two CPU POTM's
- an even integer amount for each project (instead of having threads flip back and forth between projects), and
- a minimum of four threads per project (a subsect of this goal was to increase overall PPD/RAC for my main projects, as with my more recent project configs I've had it so that my bigger ones were usually only having two each)

Sadly some projects didn't quite make the cut when I looked into those three rules being fulfilled (I'll be dropping PrimeGrid and Seti@Home Beta as regulars, for example) but at the same time being able to go from three projects up to eight or nine (and having a reasonable amount of work done for each) is one I'm liking the sound of.

I'm definitely curious about the RX 470 and how it might compare to the data (someone, ack forgot their name!!) was posting for the RX 480.
I had a feeling that a pre-GCN card wouldn't have quite the same staying power. Oh well, they'll get to live in the shadow of my benching rig for a time when they can be truly pushed ^_^

Main reason I had contemplated the HD 6850's in the first place was I already had them, but if it's going to be a case of a decent amount of heat being produced for little in the way of actual work being done I'd rather look into spending the money on new gear (even if the overall goal of this rig is to have 60 threads of cpu and two gpu's across multiple projects for hopefully less than $2k CAD before the case and watercooling is factored in)

As for the bit about not fitting, they'd still work in the 8x slots, wouldn't they? Looks like those slots are open backed, not to mention have locks to hold the card in place.

I didn't think there were but I waited until I got home to check and the 2 blue slots are open in the back for longer cards. The 16x slot will run into the memory slots, with or w/o a DIMM, with a normal full length card. It would need a stubby or something just a bit longer than a PCI-E 16x slot. But there are plenty of PCI-E lanes for double slot/full length cards if riser cables are used. I tried one briefly in my Z77 desktop and it works so I have plenty of PCI-E slots.
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I didn't think there were but I waited until I got home to check and the 2 blue slots are open in the back for longer cards. The 16x slot will run into the memory slots, with or w/o a DIMM, with a normal full length card. It would need a stubby or something just a bit longer than a PCI-E 16x slot. But there are plenty of PCI-E lanes for double slot/full length cards if riser cables are used. I tried one briefly in my Z77 desktop and it works so I have plenty of PCI-E slots.

Ah, that's good to know that they actually are open... I kind of hadn't looked at that yet to see if it was even possible. Riser cards are something I'd like to avoid at this time, but if they become necessary later on I'm fairly certain I'd manage to live ^_^;;;
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Ah, that's good to know that they actually are open... I kind of hadn't looked at that yet to see if it was even possible. Riser cards are something I'd like to avoid at this time, but if they become necessary later on I'm fairly certain I'd manage to live ^_^;;;

I didn't see any cards that were cheap enough or weren't at 90 degrees. I might take a card that went straight up and might partially support a card though. I got one each of these flexible cables to test with:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H8VVD00/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008BZBFTG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Going this route would of course severely limit cases to pretty much test benches like from Spotswood. But never mind all that since those 2 slots have open backs. May just have to try moving the 1070 or 970 over onto it.
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Got my 7990's and they just do fit into the DL580. Is there an easy way to install AMD drivers in Linux (Mint Cinnamon)?
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Got my 7990's and they just do fit into the DL580. Is there an easy way to install AMD drivers in Linux (Mint Cinnamon)?

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux

If I remember correctly mint is effectively Ubuntu, so try those.

Google showed me:
https://mintguide.org/system/461-install-latest-amd-catalyst-driver-into-linux-mint.html
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Thanks! I found all of this along with a dozen different guides. They're all entirely different. I thought you guys might have a tried and true method.
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