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In theory you are right, in action you have to fight them in order to get something returned with no reason and to achive test you need nerves of Steel and plenty of time
Also most stores cut 10-20% of the price if you opened the box

I am not sure if they have a right to do so. You need to check that more closely, but if this EU regulation allowed cutting 20% of refund of returned item, then pathetic Polish retailers would definitely do that, and yet they can't.

How I understand this regulation is - for everything bought online on European Union Territory, you have a right to return an item within 14 days from receiving it. They should refund full cost, including shipping costs (so if you get something for 100 EUR and pay 10 EUR for shipping then they have to refund 110 EUR, shipping back from you to them is on you). All EU countries had 2 years to apply this to their internal law, I believe 2 years from 10.2011, so until late 2013. So it should be settled for 3 years now.There shouldn't be any exceptions, if they are taking return fee then they are breaking the law.
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i know the regulation of EU pretty well however due tranlation they say that i can check the item as i would on a phycical shop , when you go shopping on a phycical shop you actually cant open the package so based on that here in greece they cut 10-20% of price you need many hours of fighting with the shop to get your all your money back and most of times we talk about a 2-3 month fighting with the shop and also invole consumer organizations in order to manage to get your money , here in greece there are still many shop that sell apple item with 1 year warranty , laptops or what ever else with 1 year warranty when they have to offer at least 2 year warranty according to EU regulation
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I bit the bullet and bought the UC88 model this weekend. So far I love it. So much less clutter than my previous 3 monitor setup. I had used Eyefinity since its conception but retired it over a year ago and just stuck with 3 monitors, but this is so much better. I bought 4k last year and to me that was a waste for gaming.

Luckily the store I bought it from has a zero dead/stuck pixel guarantee for an extra 5 bucks which I could not pass up. Like the rest of us, I wouldn't want to spend this kind of money to only have dead or stuck pixels. Luck is still on my side as the panel had no issues. Even last year when I bought my LG 4k monitor had no pixel issues either.

I just wish I could adjust the freesync range a little more. I can get it to 30hz no problem, but even less than 55hz I would get flicker on bright scenes with certain games.

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I bit the bullet and bought the UC88 model this weekend. So far I love it. So much less clutter than my previous 3 monitor setup. I had used Eyefinity since its conception but retired it over a year ago and just stuck with 3 monitors, but this is so much better. I bought 4k last year and to me that was a waste for gaming.

Luckily the store I bought it from has a zero dead/stuck pixel guarantee for an extra 5 bucks which I could not pass up. Like the rest of us, I wouldn't want to spend this kind of money to only have dead or stuck pixels. Luck is still on my side as the panel had no issues. Even last year when I bought my LG 4k monitor had no pixel issues either.

I just wish I could adjust the freesync range a little more. I can get it to 30hz no problem, but even less than 55hz I would get flicker on bright scenes with certain games.

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I bit the bullet and bought the UC88 model this weekend. So far I love it. So much less clutter than my previous 3 monitor setup. I had used Eyefinity since its conception but retired it over a year ago and just stuck with 3 monitors, but this is so much better. I bought 4k last year and to me that was a waste for gaming.

Luckily the store I bought it from has a zero dead/stuck pixel guarantee for an extra 5 bucks which I could not pass up. Like the rest of us, I wouldn't want to spend this kind of money to only have dead or stuck pixels. Luck is still on my side as the panel had no issues. Even last year when I bought my LG 4k monitor had no pixel issues either.

I just wish I could adjust the freesync range a little more. I can get it to 30hz no problem, but even less than 55hz I would get flicker on bright scenes with certain games.
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Looks great! I would adjust the range to 40-75Hz. I originally tried out 35-70Hz but got flickering, so when I backed to 40-75Hz, all was good. thumb.gif
    
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I just wish I could adjust the freesync range a little more. I can get it to 30hz no problem, but even less than 55hz I would get flicker on bright scenes with certain games.

Yea I have the same issue, cannot go lower with range than 50 without flickering on bright surfaces. 10-15% brightness helped to get 50-60 range without flickering but 48-60 was flickering on all brightness levels. Also I get flickering in many DX9 games even at default unedited range. But I showed it to me sister and she didn't see any flickering, so I guess you have to be very focused, be used to the screen and sensitive for such effects. Some people just don't see it, I think it sounds more plausible than some people being able to adjust range to 40-75 and some being unable to get even 50-75 without flickering on the same monitor. This is not something like overclocking, it should work constantly for all units.

However, this is not a big issue for me. FreeSync is quite useless. I was able to test also native 40-75 screen (LG 29UC88) and FreeSync isn't really worth the effort. You still see FPS drops just like before, pricture may a bit more in sync on lower framerates but you still have to keep yourself very close to refresh rate to get smooth experience. Also FreeSync is not working in many games or is bugged, and unlike G-sync it doesn't eliminate tearing so you cannot play without v-sync, even if you lock FPS within refresh rate and don't go over 75. I used it a bit on 50-60 range but then turned it off completely, just not worth caring for. I will stick to standard 60 Hz, wait for 1080 Ti to drop 1080 price a bit and get two 1080s, as there is most likely another infinite waiting required to get Vega and it won't be even worth the wait as it is going to be equal to Nvidia at best, with much worse power efficiency and as always horrible CFX support. SLI is at least actually working in some games. Single 1080 will be enough for very most of games and I will have second one for those most demanding like The Witcher 3.
Edited by Krzych04650 - 10/2/16 at 5:17am
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Looks great! I would adjust the range to 40-75Hz. I originally tried out 35-70Hz but got flickering, so when I backed to 40-75Hz, all was good. thumb.gif

I've tried several ranges including 40hz and I still see flickering unfortunately.

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Yea I have the same issue, cannot go lower with range than 50 without flickering on bright surfaces. 10-15% brightness helped to get 50-60 range without flickering but 48-60 was flickering on all brightness levels. Also I get flickering in many DX9 games even at default unedited range. But I showed it to me sister and she didn't see any flickering, so I guess you have to be very focused, be used to the screen and sensitive for such effects. Some people just don't see it, I think it sounds more plausible than some people being able to adjust range to 40-75 and some being unable to get even 50-75 without flickering on the same monitor. This is not something like overclocking, it should work constantly for all units.

However, this is not a big issue for me. FreeSync is quite useless. I was able to test also native 40-75 screen (LG 29UC88) and FreeSync isn't really worth the effort. You still see FPS drops just like before, pricture may a bit more in sync on lower framerates but you still have to keep yourself very close to refresh rate to get smooth experience. Also FreeSync is not working in many games or is bugged, and unlike G-sync it doesn't eliminate tearing so you cannot play without v-sync, even if you lock FPS within refresh rate and don't go over 75. I used it a bit on 50-60 range but then turned it off completely, just not worth caring for. I will stick to standard 60 Hz, wait for 1080 Ti to drop 1080 price a bit and get two 1080s, as there is most likely another infinite waiting required to get Vega and it won't be even worth the wait as it is going to be equal to Nvidia at best, with much worse power efficiency and as always horrible CFX support. SLI is at least actually working in some games. Single 1080 will be enough for very most of games and I will have second one for those most demanding like The Witcher 3.

I guess it is subjective on who can see flickering and who cannot. It's possible our eyes are way too sensitive compared to others who state they have no issue with expanding the range.

For me, this was the reason why I bought the panel for Freesync. I had it on my 4k monitor and I believe in it. I say it should be mandatory on all 4k with hardly any gpu's being able to keep up to 60fps at high/ultra settings. Yes it's a tad more finicky than G-Sync, but it's not useless to me especially saving a few hundred dollars for an add on module . A few mods and it works fine even without vsync enabled in the games I play, however none of them are in dx9 anymore so I can't say whether I have issues like yourself. I have to disagree with CFX and SLI, they both have issues and have been equally horrible from time to time. CFX works in many games in my library. My last complaint with CFX was GTAV and it's working properly now. While I agree CFX was an after thought in the past, it seems like they are improving more than SLi lately with their driver updates ( I think Nvidia is just working hard on Firestrke benchmarks in SLi). I mean after almost 3 years of owning my 290x's, I can still play games currently on the market quite well where the old 780Ti that was brought out to stomp on this GPU has been left in the dust for support. I believe the Radeon group is starting to steer the ship right with driver support. Just hope it's not too late.

To me, I get a vibe that sounds like you should have invested in a G-Sync monitor that would have given you at least a higher refresh rate since you have no faith in AMD with their product line and plan on investing in a 1080 instead. Nothing wrong with what you plan on doing, it's just I have found many threads that have Nvidia owners praising G-Sync, but then buying a freesync monitor and bashing it because they try to overclock the panel without an AMD card and get frame skipping. I have a feeling once you invest in a 1080 (or 2) you might regret buying this AMD purposed monitor.
Edited by ontariotl - 10/2/16 at 6:34am
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I've tried several ranges including 40hz and I still see flickering unfortunately.
I guess it is subjective on who can see flickering and who cannot. It's possible our eyes are way too sensitive compared to others who state they have no issue with expanding the range.

To me, I get a vibe that sounds like you should have invested in a G-Sync monitor that would have given you at least a higher refresh rate since you have no faith in AMD with their product line and plan on investing in a 1080 instead. Nothing wrong with what you plan on doing, it's just I have found many threads that have Nvidia owners praising G-Sync, but then buying a freesync monitor and bashing it because they try to overclock the panel without an AMD card and get frame skipping. I have a feeling once you invest in a 1080 (or 2) you might regret buying this AMD purposed monitor.

Probably.

As for the rest, I am still undecided as I cannot be until prices stabilize and both 1080 Ti and Vega is out, but if there will be 1080 Ti out in January and 1080 prices will drop, and there will still be no date for Vega release, a date soon after 1080 Ti launch, I won't wait. 1080 SLI should be optimal, considerably more powerful than single 1080 Ti/Titan in games with SLI support, so they should last longer than a year, and for less demanding games without SLI support single 1080 will be enough. Second card will just be something like unreasonable enthusiast purchase for those few most demanding games where you can push the limits.

And no, I shouldn't invest in G-sync monitor, for 3 major reasons. First - price, 34UC98 was 3800 ZL in Poland, UC88 is now 3200, Acer and Asus G-sync models were almost 6000 at the time and they still are 5500+. Second - quality, Asus and Acer models are horribly faulty and those manufacturers are horrible by themselves, I wouldn't consider their monitors even if they were cheaper than LG's. I value my hard earned money, for someone on my age in my country 3$ per hour is max what you can hope for after taxes, I won't spend my half-year savings for some crap. Third - I see not point in higher refresh rate for my uses, it would only cause inconsistency in my performance. Stable 60 with everything cranked up as much as possible is my goal.

I won't regret buying this monitor because at the time of buying there just wasn't any quality alternative on the market, and there still isn't. Maybe I will consider G-sync once some serious manufacturer makes good 3440x1440 monitor for reasonable price, but for now I see no need. Also no sidegrades planned until OLED monitors are out.
Edited by Krzych04650 - 10/2/16 at 11:47am
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