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If they innovated as you like people wouldn't upgrade at all. They did that performance jump with Sandy Bridge and the market never recovered from that. Ppl with a Sandy Bridge CPU will last forever. Hell, even people with C2Qs and a SSD are still pretty well off for daily tasks and most gaming needs. DX12/Vulkan will make it even worse.

Just face it already, enthusiasts are a tiny, tiny niche that doesn't matter at all. So instead of performance and core count increases you get functionalities that barely get any traction.

So in the proccess of killing AMD with Sandy Bridge they pretty much sank their own ship.
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PC sales drop every year, people upgrade less and less often.
Aren't those enough to motivate them? They are just laying off 12,000 people after all.

For example on the mobile market they were highly motivated and what was their accomplishment?

And do you know why people upgrade them less often?
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gaming CPUs most likely do get upgraded less often now since Ivy and even Sandy are still just fine for games compared to Skylake

didnt use to be like that
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If they innovated as you like people wouldn't upgrade at all. They did that performance jump with Sandy Bridge and the market never recovered from that. Ppl with a Sandy Bridge CPU will last forever. Hell, even people with C2Qs and a SSD are still pretty well off for daily tasks and most gaming needs. DX12/Vulkan will make it even worse.

Just face it already, enthusiasts are a tiny, tiny niche that doesn't matter at all. So instead of performance and core count increases you get functionalities that barely get any traction.

So in the proccess of killing AMD with Sandy Bridge they pretty much sank their own ship.

In intel's defence, there is no way they could have predicted that there would have been a REGRESSION in IPC with the initial generation of bulldozer cores. IF they would have known, chances are that they would have been a little more conservative in the performance and more agressive in the pricing.

Yes Intel went balls to the wall with Sandybridge, but AMD didn't exactly do anything to help the situation.
 
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And do you know why people upgrade them less often?
Because they are not motivated to pay the same amount or even more for 5-15% more performance.
Price is the main motivator after all.
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In intel's defence, there is no way they could have predicted that there would have been a REGRESSION in IPC with the initial generation of bulldozer cores. IF they would have known, chances are that they would have been a little more conservative in the performance and more agressive in the pricing.

Yes Intel went balls to the wall with Sandybridge, but AMD didn't exactly do anything to help the situation.


We all know its AMD incompetency to take on CPU/GPU against the giant.

What can we do?
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