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Hello all, as some of you may know, I've been poking around in preparation to start my new build. And now due to my old system starting to give out, the first set of parts are on order. The case I've settled on is the S8 plus the pedestal. I have also bought the motherboard, processor, ram and new OS drives; within the next month or two I will also be buying the cooling system the new setup will be using.

For the S8, I selected the full sized window for the top, window on the front, XL window for the HDD side, and the standard window plus ventilation on the PSU side. I have also ordered the pedestal with full ventilation and the PSU back. The exterior will be gunmetal, with the interior being matte white. The flexbay adaptors for the 5.25 bays will be in black, and I will have three HDD cages with a capacity of 12 platter drives, with the foresight of the potential capacity I would be looking at for a RAID 10 array down the line.

For hardware, the components I currently have on order(Initial order canceled do to logistics error) are:
LGA 1151 Extended ATX Gaming G1 motherboard
Core I7-6700K
G skill Ripjaw 2800 DDR4 4x16
2s Sandisk 1T M.2 SSDs

Rigbuilder Link:
http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/6506243

Interestingly enough, the video cards I intend to get later down the line I primarily chose not for their high performance values, but due to their physical size after adding a low-profile waterblock. They can be slimmed down to a single PCI slot without cutting away at the card in some way. The video cards in question are the Kingpin edition 980 TI cards fitted with low profile water blocks, possibly from EK.

The reason why I have decided on this route is that I am planning on a 2 way SLI setup, and at the same time, I cannot afford to spare any of the PCI slots that would normally be covered up by the standard two-wide heatsinks of a standard video card. The sound card I plan to get from Creative Labs includes a daughter card as part of the setup which requires a second slot on it's own (will likely be taking up slots 7&8 on the case). I am also planning on installing two video capture cards, one for digital (including onboard) and one for analog inputs (coax/RCA). The final two slots on the board will be populated with a RAID controller that could potentially fill up the capacity of all of those hard drive cages, and a spot reserved for a backup wireless card, should the onboard adaptor fail.

Being somewhat old fashioned, I will also be including two optical drives, the DVD writer from my existing PC, plus another that can also handle blurays. As a nice little bonus, while I have not tried it yet, the DVD drive is equipped with lightscribe, something the new drive would lack. The third set of 5.25 brackets is for a front usb panel included with the motherboard, which consists of a USB 3.0 port and a USB-C 3.1 port.

As this will be a partially liquid cooled system, I would appreciate some pointers on how to go about building the system, I already know I will be conducting the leak tests using the air pressure/gauge setup. If I go with the EK system, I will probably be basing the setup on the P360 kit, expanding on it by adding the waterblock for the north bridge of the motherboard, and later on the two video cards. Given that at this time, the only component I plan on overclocking is the processor, I would like some thoughts as to how I should go about setting up the cooling system, in particular I am wondering if a single 360 rad will be enough for what I have in mind once the system is completed. Again, with the fully built system, the liquid cooled components will be the I7-6700k CPU, north bridge, and two Kingpin 980TIs (or a similar dual-GPU setup).
Edited by Elanachan - 5/7/16 at 12:57am
post #2 of 26
my 2 cents:
ive always used the general rule of thumb- 120mm of rad for each device you're cooling @stock or mild o/c... just curious as to why you're putting the NB on water? aesthetics? i usually do pretty moderate overclocking & ive never came close to having to block the NB. although it does add a nice touch to the looks. my advice would be to go with the 360 for now & see how your temps do at stock clocks it should give you some idea of the head room on temp you will have. id say with good airflow though you should be fine with a mild o/c
post #3 of 26
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I will be overclocking the CPU because the new system can only handle 2133 DDR4 at standard clock speeds, while the ram I have on order is 2800. So to get base line values I will be overclocking the system to some extent, once everything is in place I may fiddle with the clock speeds to try to boost the performance further. The north bridge on the motherboard is equipped with a water block from the factory, I figured I might as well take advantage of it so that I don't need to reconsider down the line.
post #4 of 26
Very nice choice of colors for the S8, it should look really sharp.

I also like the single-slot capability of the 980Ti KPE, EK makes a really good block for it, with a choice of acrylic or acetal.
It looks very slick with the block and single-slot plate mounted.
EK also made their block work with the existing backplate, if you choose.

For your watercooling needs, have you considered putting two 360 rads in the pedestal?
You can still fit the psu in between the rads as well.
Two 360's would give you plenty of rad space for cooling the nb, cpu and videocards.
    
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post #5 of 26
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I have thought about the idea of putting a second 360 into the base, however the side of the case the flex bays are on will be up against a wood desk with little to no clearance. I did however make a modification to the order that would allow space for a 240 rad on the front of the case bellow the optical drives.

What are the advantages of putting the PSU in the pedestal? I ordered the plate for the back like that to allow more flexibility, but I was initially thinking the hole would be for passive airflow. I am open to the idea of putting the power supply down there, I just cannot come up with a good reason to do so.
post #6 of 26
Adding a 240 rad in front, to the 360 below, should provide decent rad space.
I was able to cool two 780 Ti's, and the cpu, quite well with a 360 and a 240.

I guess there are various reasons why someone would put the psu in the pedestal.
Some have two psu's, so there is that capability.

When using just one psu, it allows more room in the right-side compartment, for pumps, for example.
I'm going to try moving my psu into the pedestal that I have incoming.
With cable extensions, the psu wiring spaghetti mess occupies a lot of space, lol.
I could use the extra room for my dual-D5 pump setup, as well as the tubing runs and front 240 rad.

But it certainly isn't mandatory, idk if I'll like having my psu in the pedestal or not!
    
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post #7 of 26
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With four components being cooled, do you think two rads and two pumps would be advisable, or would that be overkill for the system I'm building?

Also, the order from newegg fell through due to a logistical error, so I will be re-ordering the parts. If adding a waterblock to the ram is something I should be considering, now would be the time to mention it, seeing as how I am no longer tied to the ripjaw sticks, which would've been restricted to passive air-cooling only due to the heat spreaders.
post #8 of 26
Imo, two rads wouldn't be overkill, at all.
Nice thing about two pumps is redundancy, if one fails you have a backup pump.

Ram watercooling isn't a necessity, it really doesn't need it. However some do it for the looks.
    
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post #9 of 26
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For me, the looks are a bonus. I'm doing some things for asthetics like coolant color and coloring some of the fittings, as well as wanting to go with the transparent waterblocks where able. But this setup is about functionality first, anything purely for looks will likely be excluded unless it's an optional version of something that would be part of the build anyway. If the RAM would be fine without a waterblock, even with the overclocking I'm planning on, then I'm not going to worry about it. I do wonder if passive cooling will be enough though if I stick with the ripjaw V series.

Speaking of which, assuming I remake the order with Newegg with the G1 board, the interior color theme is going to be white, red, blue and black. The white represented by the case interior itself, the plastic shroud on the motherboard, as well as the white(ish) solid portions of the transparent waterblocks. The red is the highlights on the plastic shroud of the motherboard, as well as the output fittings for the waterloop. The blue will be the input fittings, as well as the coolant (considering EK's pastel blue, should I go with their's). The other motherboard I am considering is the SOC Force board, also from gigabyte, same form factor, but the color matching shifts from white/red/blue/black to white/black/orange.

If anyone has any suggestions for alternatives other than EK's options, I am very open to alternatives, as they are the only company that I've really looked at so far, due to ignorance of what is out there.
Edited by Elanachan - 5/6/16 at 10:41pm
post #10 of 26
Still do see a lot of ram blocks on many of the builds here though.
It's nice to have a little bit of bling to go with the functionality, lol.
    
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