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I find the gui cumbersome and unlike windows which nags me to restart when finished, I feel like the gui does not give any feedback when done. is there a way i can run the updates via the terminal?


Run this in a terminal:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
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Linux also does not require a reboot with most updates, unless its a kernel update.
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1. This is just an aesthetics question, and really is just my own personal opinion. But it does bother me. Why do pretty much all linux fonts and icons and even layouts, look so Mac-esque?

2. Why don't they support a distro for longer?

3. This is related to question 2. If linux is so modular, and so interchangeable, and so much more customizeable than other OS's, then why do they even need to make all these big changes every 2 years?

4. How come there isn't just one big repository, for ALL linux distros? It looks like some of the software will work on some distros, but not others. Why is this?

1. It's pretty dependent on the desktop you're using, or the default that comes with your distro. My fonts currently look very much like terminal fonts, very geeky style as I use the openbox window manager. I couldn't say why yours looks like Mac as I'm not much of a ubuntu/mint user but it's worth pointing out you can change the fonts or even the desktop if you don't like how it looks.

2. You should have a look at LTS releases which try to support the distro for much longer. Try to remember that just because they release a new version doesn't mean your LTS distro isn't worth using anymore. Debian tends to have a longer support cycle than most distros, as their long term support releases start after official support has ended so you can use the same release for up to 7 years if you want.

3. There are a couple of reasons for this.

3a) Recently there was a big change in the form of systemd with more likely to come as systemd is often changing. Some people are unhappy about it and looking for alternatives whilst others are fine with it. You should make up your own mind about systemd but it does mean a little reading. If you find it's not for you then you can check http://without-systemd.org for distros without systemd.

3b) A lot of ubuntu style distros try to keep track of upstream changes, and have a "rolling release" system where they only support their release for a short life time before you have to upgrade to the latest and greatest software. LTS releases as mentioned before are the way round that, then you can just upgrade to the latest LTS if you feel like it.

4. The good news is a lot of distros already come with thousands (think 10-20k) of packages. In the ubuntu based distros there seems to be a lot of PPA add-ons. Some distros (Debian and Gentoo to name a couple) just have one big repo to get everything from.

One thing to add - the point of gnu/linux having different distros is indeed so that each distro can be different. With windows it's a case of they release an OS and you either upgrade or you don't, on GNU/Linux if you don't like something you can try something new to see if it suits you. Though keep in mind some more advanced distros have a steeper learning curve.

Good luck smile.gif
Edited by etplayer - 6/6/16 at 12:49pm
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This is my Debian LXDE (Clearlooks theme) setup on my laptop...



You can get the same packages on Ubuntu derivatives.
Edited by KarathKasun - 6/6/16 at 1:36pm
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Not quite as important, but you still want to get them because any OS can have a security flaw, including Linux. The reason Linux doesn't get attacked as much is only because Windows has so much more marketshare and therefore gets targeted much more.


Only partly true. Everything in Windows is centralized and The Registry is God. It is designed so that things just run with the least interference or user intervention but that is a double-edged sword that also makes malware easy to both insert and run, often extremely early in the boot process which allows them to hide.

Linux, OTOH, having been designed as a multi-user OpSys from the ground, up, and even it's precurser, Unix was as well, that things are NOT centralized but spread out. There is no equivalent to The Registry, C:\Documents and Settings, or even C:\Program Files. A dew years ago after many man/hours of work a crew managed to insert some malware but it could not run or do anything. The most threatening attack is a rootkit but those are exceedingly rare, especially ones that are capable of attacking a well-secured Linux. FTR I run rkhunter every two weeks and have since 2004 on several machines, two of them running 24/7, .and NEVER found a single one.
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The good thing about Linux is that you can run the updater without having to reboot afterwards, which is a luxury that Windows rarely offers.

Absolutely true! smile.gif though I do all updates manually if at all possible, including nVidia driver installs.
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Ive setup Linux honeypots. They get infected quite easily, and frighteningly quick. Faster than my windows ones TBQH.

Windows is rooted in a multi-user operating system as well, it is called Windows NT. Nothing really remains of Windows 9x. In Linux sysinit is god, system services require no user input and can wreck a system if they are malicious. Everything you said of Windows is true of Linux, the only difference is market share.
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Windows security is pretty good since Win 7, even on the Admin account I get prompted when an application wants access to system space so any funny business stands out, of course some users may turn off such prompts because it "gets in the way" of installing malware toolbars rolleyes.gif

Isn't Wicd deprecated? I still connect manually with wpa_supplicant, it would be nice if there were just a simple ncurses-based network manager to list SSIDs and connect simply, tried wpa_gui but it looks just as blah as Wicd seems to look :\
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Wicd is the default network management app for LXDE/Debian. I like it well enough, its simple and lightweight. My WiFi adapter is terrible in Linux though. Intel Centrino 6300-n, only gets 25% of the throughput that the same device in Windows gets. Thats AFTER tweaking and optimizing.
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Have you tried another version of the firmware? https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi There is also a troubleshooting section at the end of the page mentioning something in regards to the kernel module loaded for your adapter, could be an easy fix smile.gif
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Ive done everything, its a known glitch in the IWL kernel module. Its doing something wrong with the radio, all devices on wifi suffer when I use it. redface.gif
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