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Originally Posted by KarathKasun View Post

Thank you for being honest.

Here are some numbers from 2014 (source)...

Windows (Vista, 7, 8.1, S2008, S2012, W-RT. Cumulative, overlapping vulnerabilities not duplicated)
68 total vulnerabilities
47 high severity
20 medium severity
1 low severity

Linux (Ubuntu/RHEL/openSUSE/Fedora. Cumulative, overlapping vulnerabilities not duplicated)
119 total vulnerabilities
24 high severity
74 medium severity
21 low severity

You apparently missed the point of my honesty. I'm saying that not only does everyone have bias but some is driven by money and currently there is more of it in proprietary, like MS.

Just do the math on your own numbers. Out of a mere 68 vulns 47 were high severity on Vista.

Out of almost twice that number, 119, only 24 were deemed high severity by your reporter.

That is a HUGE gulf I'd like to say that the reason for so many discovered and lower threat vulns in Linux are because of Linus's Law - "With enough eyes all bugs are shallow". How many bugs exist is not a measure of how many were actually exploited and at what cost.

I'm by no means acquiescing to the idea that Windows is more secure than Linux. I just can't prove it by 3rd party means. It is only possible to infer it by exactly the sort of process I just used.
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You apparently missed the point of my honesty. I'm saying that not only does everyone have bias but some is driven by money and currently there is more of it in proprietary, like MS.

Just do the math on your own numbers. Out of a mere 68 vulns 47 were high severity on Vista.

Out of almost twice that number, 119, only 24 were deemed high severity by your reporter.

That is a HUGE gulf I'd like to say that the reason for so many discovered and lower threat vulns in Linux are because of Linus's Law - "With enough eyes all bugs are shallow". How many bugs exist is not a measure of how many were actually exploited and at what cost.

I'm by no means acquiescing to the idea that Windows is more secure than Linux. I just can't prove it by 3rd party means. It is only possible to infer it by exactly the sort of process I just used.

You don't need a high severity vulnerability to gain access to personal information (because all of that is stored within a service/app). And all it takes is one major vulnerability. ONE. There is no gulf between 10 and 100 major vulnerabilities, both situations are just as insecure. thumb.gif

Did I say one was more secure than the other? Stop the pissing contest. You do not get security with EITHER OS unless you manually harden them. You CAN harden Linux more effectively because of its modularity, but basic distributions are no better or worse than Windows.

You are acquiescing to the fact that you are basing your idea about security solely on opinion.
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Except it isn't true.

I refer you to everything OpenBSD has done for the past 12 years (which by the way trickled down into failsoft, other bsds, linux & solaris (before they were brutally murdered at the hands of oracle corporation)).

Mitigations and clean code, combined with strong networking stack is what usually the solution. Unfortunately those are three things no one ever wants to hear and work with. Why is OpenBSD malloc have not been universally adopted and ported everywhere? Its difficult to work with for the userland programmer.

Linux also utilizes ASLR to randomize memory allocation. It may not work exactly the same way as BSD, but it's the same principle.
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You don't need a high severity vulnerability to gain access to personal information (because all of that is stored within a service/app). And all it takes is one major vulnerability. ONE. There is no gulf between 10 and 100 major vulnerabilities, both situations are just as insecure. thumb.gif

What? Probability states that with more availability or options there is a likelihood of more events.
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Did I say one was more secure than the other? Stop the pissing contest. You do not get security with EITHER OS unless you manually harden them. You CAN harden Linux more effectively because of its modularity, but basic distributions are no better or worse than Windows.

Well you kinda just did but the opposite of what you've been saying previously, touting equality.
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You are acquiescing to the fact that you are basing your idea about security solely on opinion.

Yup. Opinion based on considerable experience and research. You have differing experience so your opinion differs somewhat. It's not a pissing contest if we restrain ourselves to ideas and don't get personal. You're welcome to your opinion. As I said, I'll stick with what is used on most servers, smartphones and supercomputers,... and the ability to harden more effectively.
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What? Probability states that with more availability or options there is a likelihood of more events.
No, those are "reported" vulnerabilities. It makes no difference if people find 10 holes in your software or 100, You are still compromised. The end result is the exact same. And many times the worst vulnerabilities go unfixed for quite some time if exploited well.
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Well you kinda just did but the opposite of what you've been saying previously, touting equality.
Have you even been reading my posts?

Like this quote from an earlier post of mine...
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Dont know a lick about security but know something about computers? Get windows (or mac), get AV, live behind a router. This also works for quick server deployments, especially if Windows only server side software is needed.

Know what you are doing, comfortable with advanced networking, comfortable with DIY software... get Linux. Want to end MS monopoly... get Linux or a Mac. Want to be a "creator" in the PC space... use a Mac, setup a virtualized environment and run all three so you can cross compile. And finally, if you only use web apps, use Linux or Mac.

All you see is "LINUX IS NOT THE ABSOLUTE BEST THEREFORE IT IS ABSOLUTE TRASH" And you then reply by typing what essentially translates to... "LINUX IS THE ONLY SECURE OS PERIOD, BECAUSE THAT IS MY OPINION AND MY OPINION IS THE ONLY VALID OPINION. I AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY, IT MAKES ME RIGHT"
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Yup. Opinion based on considerable experience and research. You have differing experience so your opinion differs somewhat. It's not a pissing contest if we restrain ourselves to ideas and don't get personal. You're welcome to your opinion. As I said, I'll stick with what is used on most servers, smartphones and supercomputers,... and the ability to harden more effectively.

How do you expect me to take you seriously when you post things like this...
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C'mon Karath we're just trying to make sure a self-professed Unix Evangelist doesn't "drink the koolaid" from trying to look TOO conciliatory. biggrin.gif Linux has better security built in. This may turn out to be even more true now that with Win10 EULA, MS can read your email and browser history AND "call home" on unsecured lines even if your entire disk is encrypted. This may get worse for anyone and everyone if Intel's embedded "UEFI on Steroids" becomes a reality.

Which is nothing but a tangential, thinly veiled personal attack that has nothing to do with ACTUAL security and more to do with what is and is not permissible in an EULA. And is mainly an appeal to emotion surrounding Windows 10's questionable EULA. Default security has been shown to be insufficient on BOTH operating systems. 90% of users will not harden their security, let alone use a strong password on their own. Your argument is invalid for that 90% of the market at the very least.
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let alone use a strong password on their own.
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I'd just like to point out passwords don't always mean strong or weak security. If the password is weak that will be used, if some other part is weaker that will be used.

You two are starting to talk about things like my house has the best locks but I never lock it. You locks mean nothing if you don't use it. You both have different opinions and are now just getting personal with the discussion when it should have ended earlier.
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I'd just like to point out passwords don't always mean strong or weak security. If the password is weak that will be used, if some other part is weaker that will be used.

That is true. The password comment was pointing out that a majority of people will not use good security practices to start with, much less harden their system beyond installing something like Norton.

The whole argument bugs me because I have a person who admittedly has not been on top of Windows security since Windows 2000 pro/server trying to tell me what the security landscape is like 16 years later without even attempting to link to references or case studies which actually exist.
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@ Karath - You think this is personal? Well that does explain a lot but really up until recently it was not personal for me. Despite a bit of spin doctoring (over emphasizing some points while de-emphasizing others, for the most part I've enjoyed your repartee even though we disagree. I think I provided sufficient links to demonstrate that while my knowledge of Windows diminished in 1st hand experience since Win 7, it should be obvious that I've stayed in touch more than the average windows user regarding "nuts and bolts", but then at this point it seems it is when it veers off into the personal a bit. In any case, I think cones is quite accurate that "This conversation can serve no further purpose. Good-bye, Dave"

Incidentally I do think our conversation did serve purpose initially and for several posts after. I know they often made me think and check references and hopefully it did for you and others as well. I assure you I hold no grudge and will pay attention to any future posts of yours I see as you are not just the average overclocker either. . If readers were enticed to research and think, it had value.
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@ Karath - You think this is personal? Well that does explain a lot but really up until recently it was not personal for me. Despite a bit of spin doctoring (over emphasizing some points while de-emphasizing others, for the most part I've enjoyed your repartee even though we disagree. I think I provided sufficient links to demonstrate that while my knowledge of Windows diminished in 1st hand experience since Win 7, it should be obvious that I've stayed in touch more than the average windows user regarding "nuts and bolts", but then at this point it seems it is when it veers off into the personal a bit. In any case, I think cones is quite accurate that "This conversation can serve no further purpose. Good-bye, Dave"

Incidentally I do think our conversation did serve purpose initially and for several posts after. I know they often made me think and check references and hopefully it did for you and others as well. I assure you I hold no grudge and will pay attention to any future posts of yours I see as you are not just the average overclocker either. . If readers were enticed to research and think, it had value.

Your comments in general were not personal except for every now and then something would slip into Ad-Hominem.

At most its frustrating when trying to argue something when the other party provides no evidence for their position that is current. Then they do nothing but spin numbers and quote out of context. And IMHO, when you do nothing but spin and misquote, yes it becomes personal.
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I am in the middle. I agree that Linux isn't bullet-proof as I described in previous posts. But, at the same time I do NOT agree with Karath that desktop Linux installs are equally as insecure as the default Windows install. Linux has more hardening in the default upstream kernel (that is, the protections are built in regardless of the distro). Now, Windows has a lot of these nowadays as well, but I still think Linux is ahead of the game here (compared to Windows). This is evidenced by the fact that MS copied a lot of these technologies from Linux in Windows 7 (ASLR, etc.). Windows 10 probably has even more.

I do agree with Karath that much more hardening can be done with Linux in general. For instance, I don't know of anything on Windows that can do what SELinux can do. I don't know if there is anything resembling Mandatory Access Controls in Windows at all. Or if you want to go really hardcore, you can compile your own kernel with PaX and GrSec protections built in and then go to town configuring it (not for novices). You just can't do that with Windows -- you have no access to the kernel and can't compile it. Developers of third-party tools are stuck using Microsoft's API's to hook into the kernel and even then there have been lots of issues with that (with various vendors complaining that MS doesn't give them enough access to do what they need to do). This isn't a problem with Linux since it is open-source by default.
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