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The ebay seller in US who has ES chips is selling more
post #482 of 775
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Originally Posted by Sharif-4 View Post

In the moment of frustration and just doing that one last stand. I got the cold boot to stop
(The only way I could boot was by turning computer off by the power supply and press the pwr button to discharge it, It boots the next time it's on and works every time strangely)

Coldboots started after switching to F6e, again in frustration I was thinking of starting from scratch and setting everything to default which I did and the cold boot was still present which got me baffled. So I redid the PWR off method and eventually got into the bios where this time I looked up the skylake overclocking guide and uped every voltage I could get my hands and voila no more cold boots.

This isn't pinpointed down to which one actually did something but hopefully, this helps you.
(Everything in small amounts and CPU multiplier is at 25x, keep in mind I was having cold boots during stock)
I changed the Vcore, Dram voltage, VCCIO and system agent voltage too
Turned turbo boost off, hyperthreading too for experimenting

Take all this with a grain bucket of salt as I worry I have placebo effect kicking in.

Edit
it came back but this time it's able to boot after few loops. I am just tired right now and switched back to F6 again

I just finished the game after who knows how long, thinking of setting it at 4Ghz and call it a day. Besides it only seems to crash during games. I noticed the CPU utilisation is pretty low in that game and it barely budges from 60fps even at 2.5ghz.

I wanted to solve this before selling this computer, as I need to shed off some weight before moving to another country sometime next year but it seems I need to purchase a CPU or be a terrible person and sell it off with it wink.gif

Hi m8, im still struggling with the cold boots. Did you also get code 19? If the cold boots are gone can you tell me what settings that you changed and to what numbers please?. And how do you get the for example f6E with the letter after is it beta?.
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Originally Posted by cloud1250000 View Post

Setting cache to 22 didnt do it?

Also, you know that non-k bios break avx instruction used in stress tool? Try with prime95 v26.6 (latest one without avx)

You might want to try a moded ES bios lol Sadly, nobody did one for your motherboard and you'll have to craft one yourself. I gave a link to a russian forum for this.

M8 can you give me the link to the guide?
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Originally Posted by cloud1250000 View Post

Indeed they doesnt need a special bios if they are correctly recognized. If they are not, you need to add the correct cpu microcode to the bios.

How do you add the correct cpu microcode for the es m8?
post #483 of 775
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Originally Posted by Alfonsg00 View Post

How do you add the correct cpu microcode for the es m8?
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Originally Posted by Alfonsg00 View Post

M8 can you give me the link to the guide?

here we go m8, it`s in russian wink.gif
https://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?p=14378504#p14378504
post #484 of 775
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Originally Posted by cloud1250000 View Post


here we go m8, it`s in russian wink.gif
https://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?p=14378504#p14378504

Thank you m8, you are not russian? Otherwise i will try to translate it with google translate lol.
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Aha no i'm not, I had enough luck to found this thread online wink.gif (i tried korean google and russian google tongue.gif) you may have different result depending on the language wink.gif
post #486 of 775
Good Luck with the microcode, please let us know if successful
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I will, but i will try to follow the skylake overclocking guide first. In the guide they says that they recommend starting at 1.2v VCCIO and VCCSA. The default vccio for me is 0,960v and vccsa at 1,060v. Do you guys think that it's safe to raise them to 1,2v as the guide recommend? I just don't want to burn something in the cpu XD.

Sharif what did you do?.

"VCCIO, VCCSA, and DRAM Voltage: As I stated earlier, most motherboards have strong "auto rules" pertaining to these voltages. If you want to overclock your memory over 3GHz, you will probably have to tune these voltages, and I have outlined my results with 4GHz speeds on the next page. I recommend starting at 1.2v VCCIO and VCCSA and whatever DRAM voltage is written on your kit."

Update: Trying to oc with all my 4 ram sticks, even with the "broken" one. Cleaned them good with ipa clean. I oced the cpu a small amount every time. At first i tried with vccio at 1,06v and vccsa at 1,06v. I could actually oc it a bit now with 4 sticks of ram. I don't know if it was because i cleaned every ram or because of the higher vccio that i used. At 3.1ghz it failed to boot and more voltage didn't help so i tried to raise the vccio and vccsa to 1,1v. Now it booted. It even booted at 3.3ghz now with 4 sticks of ram and after that at 3.5ghz. At first it didn't want to boot at 3.5ghz with 1.25v so i tried to raise it to 1,27v and it booted. i got the llc at default and not on high so that's maybe why i need much voltage. Before when i tried to oc with the 4 sticks it wouldn't boot even with a tiny oc.
Edited by Alfonsg00 - 3/22/17 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by Sol1dus2 View Post

Good Luck with the microcode, please let us know if successful

And please drop an English guide here lol smile.giftongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Alfonsg00 View Post

Hi m8, im still struggling with the cold boots. Did you also get code 19? If the cold boots are gone can you tell me what settings that you changed and to what numbers please?. And how do you get the for example f6E with the letter after is it beta?.

Honestly I just blindly bumped up the voltage, the ones I changed are the ones in the same section with Vcore. I set both to 1.100v it isn't too high or too small of change either so I went with that. All it did was alter how coldboots were acting though they still remained (In my case)

The Bios is from here http://overclocking.guide/download/gigabyte-ga-z170xp-sli-non-k-oc-bios/ (For Z170XP-SLI)
It's just modified bios, I think the user just added that to distinguish from the actual one maybe*

I switched back to F6 again, it seems that was the best solution to cold boots (coldboots wasn't a common issue with F6 for me) though the bluescreen issue still remains. I don't want to admit it but I feel defeated


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Originally Posted by Alfonsg00 View Post

I will, but i will try to follow the skylake overclocking guide first. In the guide they says that they recommend starting at 1.2v VCCIO and VCCSA. The default vccio for me is 0,960v and vccsa at 1,060v. Do you guys think that it's safe to raise them to 1,2v as the guide recommend? I just don't want to burn something in the cpu XD.

Sharif what did you do?.

"VCCIO, VCCSA, and DRAM Voltage: As I stated earlier, most motherboards have strong "auto rules" pertaining to these voltages. If you want to overclock your memory over 3GHz, you will probably have to tune these voltages, and I have outlined my results with 4GHz speeds on the next page. I recommend starting at 1.2v VCCIO and VCCSA and whatever DRAM voltage is written on your kit."

Update: Trying to oc with all my 4 ram sticks, even with the "broken" one. Cleaned them good with ipa clean. I oced the cpu a small amount every time. At first i tried with vccio at 1,06v and vccsa at 1,06v. I could actually oc it a bit now with 4 sticks of ram. I don't know if it was because i cleaned every ram or because of the higher vccio that i used. At 3.1ghz it failed to boot and more voltage didn't help so i tried to raise the vccio and vccsa to 1,1v. Now it booted. It even booted at 3.3ghz now with 4 sticks of ram and after that at 3.5ghz. At first it didn't want to boot at 3.5ghz with 1.25v so i tried to raise it to 1,27v and it booted. i got the llc at default and not on high so that's maybe why i need much voltage. Before when i tried to oc with the 4 sticks it wouldn't boot even with a tiny oc.

After reading what you did, I should have played around with them a bit more before I gave in

You know what, let me bump up those voltages again in F6 this time and see the result. Though I ain't playing another new game after what Alien isolation was like (Bluescreens not the game rolleyes.gif)
post #489 of 775
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Originally Posted by Sharif-4 View Post

Honestly I just blindly bumped up the voltage, the ones I changed are the ones in the same section with Vcore. I set both to 1.100v it isn't too high or too small of change either so I went with that. All it did was alter how coldboots were acting though they still remained (In my case)

The Bios is from here http://overclocking.guide/download/gigabyte-ga-z170xp-sli-non-k-oc-bios/ (For Z170XP-SLI)
It's just modified bios, I think the user just added that to distinguish from the actual one maybe*

I switched back to F6 again, it seems that was the best solution to cold boots (coldboots wasn't a common issue with F6 for me) though the bluescreen issue still remains. I don't want to admit it but I feel defeated
After reading what you did, I should have played around with them a bit more before I gave in

You know what, let me bump up those voltages again in F6 this time and see the result. Though I ain't playing another new game after what Alien isolation was like (Bluescreens not the game rolleyes.gif)

Thank you for your update!. I hope that you solve the problem and me too smile.gif Maybe a bad question but why do you need to update/chose another microcode for the es cpus? What will it do? So i doesn't got the microupdate in the official bios?. The "modified" bios didn't work for you/ didn't solved your problems?. Maybe we are onto something with the vccio and vccsa. I got both at 1.1v too m8. I don't know if it works, maybe the computer won't start tomorrow. Btw how much ram do you got and how many sticks of ram?.
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Originally Posted by Alfonsg00 View Post

Thank you for your update!. I hope that you solve the problem and me too smile.gif Maybe a bad question but why do you need to update/chose another microcode for the es cpus? What will it do? So i doesn't got the microupdate in the official bios?. The "modified" bios didn't work for you/ didn't solved your problems?. Maybe we are onto something with the vccio and vccsa. I got both at 1.1v too m8. I don't know if it works, maybe the computer won't start tomorrow. Btw how much ram do you got and how many sticks of ram?.

I was wondering if I could get my hands on a Dell prebuilt computer and grab the cpu and replace it with mine and resell it (They won't be doing any gaming hence I wouldn't worry about bluescreens, plus minimum money will be spent) I read that due to the microcode of ES CPUs it shouldn't work hence the curiosity on how easy it is to do that.
I got dual 8gb sticks - https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-8GBx2-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B01EIDY1EK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1490224543&sr=1-1&keywords=Ballistix+Sport+LT+16GB

I hope so too and I am yet to bump up the voltage, Though honestly I would love to continue testing but even with games it happens randomly usually after 15min or 30min or even an hour which I am not really willing to spend waiting for bluescreen lol. I tried leaving the game running and going on with my day but that doesn't cause the bluescreen to happen (Game kept running for 3 hours without a bluescreen, though I should experiment with different scenes)
Edited by Sharif-4 - 3/22/17 at 4:20pm
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