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problem is we probably still wont know P10 vs 1070 for real (as well as P10 DX11 performance) until June 29-th and real gaming benchmarks/reviews

on the presentation they will only (vaguely) compare it with their own AMD cards which will give an idea of its segment, but not much more than that

Sadly, that is mostly what is going to happen frown.gif But still better than nothing biggrin.gif
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Sadly, that is mostly what is going to happen frown.gif But still better than nothing biggrin.gif

here's the thing, the 380x held a price point of 250$ I would expect AMD to price these things similiar to last generation's chips. 250$ for R9 Fury (non-x) performance would be game-changing. AMD is looking to gain marketshare this go-around and I hope they do.
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

problem is we probably still wont know P10 vs 1070 for real (as well as P10 DX11 performance) until June 29-th and real gaming benchmarks/reviews

on the presentation they will only (vaguely) compare it with their own AMD cards which will give an idea of its segment, but not much more than that

Are we sure the 29th June NDA is related to polaris? I'd be surprised if it was.
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Are we sure the 29th June NDA is related to polaris? I'd be surprised if it was.

NDA's are usually written including a "safe date". So the 29th is when, regardless of whether polaris is released or not, the media can talk about it. But this also applies to potential VEGA chips if they were talking about tech in VEGA... or ZEN or some strange new APU's, or AM4. the macau event was 3 days long and one of those days was polaris tech day- that still leaves 1 day unaccounted for, because I saw the picture of raja pimpin'.
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Are we sure the 29th June NDA is related to polaris? I'd be surprised if it was.

It's the best we can think of with the Macau 'Radeon Tech Day,' I mean, there's only a few things it could be. Zen is too far out. Might be the Bristol Ridge APUs, not likely AM4 specifically since that's nothing to do with Radeon, maybe indirectly with the APUs. Can't be Vega as that's too far out.

I can't think of anything else big that AMD would be announcing in the near future. So either P10/11 (maybe both, maybe one or the other) or Bristol Ridge. Those are best guess/most likely.
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The 29-th June was right there on the document but we couldn't see the "Po" named document that we all speculate was for Polaris. However on one of the pictures from the event there was Polaris and 29-th June NDA right up on the presentation.

As Buris i too believe this has added "safe date" value in it and we will have all information available as late as 14-16 June when E3 happens.
Or even tomorrow ... unlikely but still biggrin.gif
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I was mad before when I said AMD not competing against GTX 1080 is giving up, but it probably makes sense if they release a bang for the buck sub 300$ product that performs really well.

The sad part for me is that coming from a 290X (which is 3 years old soon) isn't worth it to upgrade to something lower than GTX 1070. I want to make the jump to 1440p and a single card below 1070/980 Ti isn't going to cut it.

A really great case scenario would be when AMD plans to release VEGA with a great price/performace aswell. Let's say GTX 1080 + 25% performance for 549$ in February 2017 or something.

If VEGA is really 2017 and Polaris 10 is rather bad, then I will look into how GTX 1070 custom cards are priced. Below 400€ would be a good point for me personally. I have to factor in the additional G-Sync cost because I do not have a G-Sync monitor. I'd rather go FreeSync.
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Are we sure the 29th June NDA is related to polaris? I'd be surprised if it was.

it's the NDA to the information of that event I assume. It may mean Polaris cards yes. Who knows. I don't think reviewers have Polaris card yet. Maybe AMD is going to show Polaris cards tonight or even annoucing them, but I would urge people to not have high hopes for today. AMD are known for disappointing with announcements, because well generally people have very high expectations. I am not bashing AMD, but it feels so tiresome that AMD showed Polaris for so long, but they are late once again and still haven't showed any worthy information at all.

Could also be other information that were shown at the event or a placeholder date that has other clauses to break it.
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here's the thing, the 380x held a price point of 250$ I would expect AMD to price these things similiar to last generation's chips. 250$ for R9 Fury (non-x) performance would be game-changing. AMD is looking to gain marketshare this go-around and I hope they do.

That is about 5% better than 980 ~ yeah. 250$ for GTX 980 - Fury performance would be fair. We waited so long. It is a very fine line there.

Here is how I consider it :

300$ for 980-Fury performance = terrible
250$ for 980-Fury perforamance = good

The reason for that is because the GTX 1070 is 379$-449$ and the GTX 1070 performance 5-10% faster than 980 Ti. So the GTX 1070 is 30% faster than Fury (non X) and if you ask me the extra 80$ are definitely worth the 30% increase in performance.

People have to be careful there, it is not that easy for AMD to release a great bang for the buck product because of the GTX 1070. We need to start looking at the present and not the past. I wouldn't compare the Polaris cards to 2014 and 2015 cards but rather base it on the GTX 1070 price/performance ratio.

The absolutely best case scenario for AMD would be R9 480X at 329$ and performs exactly like GTX 1070, but I doubt that.
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it's quite incredible that 780Ti was claimed by JHH to be the fastest GPU on the planet at launch.

just look at its position right now.

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it's quite incredible that 780Ti was claimed by JHH to be the fastest GPU on the planet at launch.

just look at its position right now.

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Should have used 770, it's a refresh of once fastest GPU on the planet at launch.

Or 280x for the same exact reason.
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Should have used 770, it's a refresh of once fastest GPU on the planet at launch.

Or 280x for the same exact reason.

you're right. at launch 770 traded blow with 280X.

right now with new benchmarks and drivers, it trails behind by goddamn 20%.


it's like nVidia know how to make their cards looks best at launch (if anyone can remember that crappy GTX760 was at the top of Steam hardware survey for sometime), after that is another story.
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