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Intel is still gonna be best. I don't think anybody seriously thinks Zen will be faster than the fastest Intel processors, but if it can bring IB or Haswell IPC and decent overclockability then it will be a massive win for AMD and consumers.


Surely you meant to say 'Fastest in an Intel compiled benchmark'?

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People need to put less faith in these things and concentrate on overall experience. 80% of the people that comment on these things are OCing to boost their Farmville FPS........and not serious workloads.

I think the new chip will offer a lot,raw performance is going to be a close second but the gap will be nothing. The upside is we get a new platform to really crack on with,the second gen is where its going to be bloodbath if this arch works out...
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Amd might compete with intel in the value market and i m sure intel will respond later..
at this moment skylake is a great cpu from low to high end, not the best for value but amd has a chance there.
i doubt Zen will reach the intel extreme cpus because they are years ahead in any aspect.
Edited by jmcosta - 5/18/16 at 11:26am
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I don't pay attention to the enterprise/server market but is there the same disparity in performance between AMD and Intel in that market as well? I don't really care if the CPU can hang with the socket 2011 but if they can offer the features of that platform (pci-e lanes, storage options etc..) in the mainstream sector I think they can win some people over with "good enough" performance.
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Amd might compete with intel in the value market and i m sure intel will respond later..
at this moment skylake is a great cpu from low to high end, not the best for value but they have a chance there.
i doubt Zen will reach the intel extreme cpus because they are years ahead in any aspect.

X99,for the moment,is Haswell primarily....the very same cores as you get in the consumer fodder. They are behind Skylake......

Intel,while being very good,are not infallible,they dont have a 'sucker punch' in the wings beyond their tick tock. IF AMD can pull it off AND win over the OEM's then it will be a good time to be an enthusiast. If not....well,it will please many readers of this thread but not me....
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Just bought $500 worth of stocks on AMD because of all the hype with AM4/Zen. biggrin.gif
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I and about 90% of PC gamers could care less about high end, flagship, basically any graphics card over $400.

I'm buying AMD's $300 card, whatever that is, because that's my budget. Call me crazy, but I could care less about performance comparisons. AMD's $300 cards have always done well with me and that's what I'm sticking to. People usually stick with what works. I stick with AMD because I know what I'm getting for $300
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Just bought $500 worth of stocks on AMD because of all the hype with AM4/Zen. biggrin.gif

That's kind of dumb... especially when they're still so close to 3.99 (I sold at 3.96) 52 week high that happened like two weeks ago. I think AMD is a 'hold' right now, wait and see what happens.
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I and about 90% of PC gamers could care less about high end, flagship, basically any graphics card over $400.

I'm buying AMD's $300 card, whatever that is, because that's my budget. Call me crazy, but I could care less about performance comparisons. AMD's $300 cards have always done well with me and that's what I'm sticking to. People usually stick with what works. I stick with AMD because I know what I'm getting for $300

That is how most people are. They have a budget and a brand and they stick with it. I have done the same thing with x70 cards starting with the 570.
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While I don't think this will be as bad as Bulldozer, I don't think it will be as good as Skylake. If it's not better, then what's the point? Cheaper isn't really a reason because then you could just go with an older generation Intel that will probably still be more power efficient.
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While I don't think this will be as bad as Bulldozer, I don't think it will be as good as Skylake. If it's not better, then what's the point? Cheaper isn't really a reason because then you could just go with an older generation Intel that will probably still be more power efficient.

You could always try reading some posts from @looncraz to have a better idea.
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