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Easy to do when Intel has obviously stopped trying on desktop but hey, I love AMD and want real competition in the x86 space.
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I am in a "believe it when I see it" holding pattern.

I can still feel the sting of Bulldozer...frown.gif
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Originally Posted by Satans_Hell View Post

I am in a "believe it when I see it" holding pattern.

I can still feel the sting of Bulldozer...frown.gif


I think all of us can. We had waited since the Core architecture from Intel for AMD to make something competitive and they just haven't. I, Like many, had held my breath and bet everything on Bulldozer and lost heavily. I had to scrap an entire build and go to the 2600k I have now (it has lasted me 5 years.) I think most people that were around for that are going to be pretty leery of anything AMD claims until it comes out and the benchmarks repeatedly say it's true.

I certainly didn't go with Zen. I am simply waiting on BW-E to go pick up my processor and start my new build. I don't have the time or inclination to wait on AMD anymore and most enthusiasts don't even bother with AMD.


The problem then becomes when non enthusiasts decide to make builds. Enthusiasts are who they typically turn to for advice. I won't even deny that I have recommended locked i3 and i5s over AMD processors for years now. I simply don't trust AMD to perform.

@2010rig seemed like a Zealot in October of 2011 but he was right on every count. People can naysay him as a "fanboy," but the truth was he smelled burning and called a fire a fire.
 
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lol the zen chart is not labeled. Is it safe to assume it's the same as the one on the left and it suggests 2x bulldozer result on cinebench? If so then it's kinda expected. Zen core has FP resources of 1 BD module so not surprising at all. Hope we get more accurate numbers soon.
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lol the zen chart is not labeled. Is it safe to assume it's the same as the one on the left and it suggests 2x bulldozer result on cinebench? If so then it's kinda expected. Zen core has FP resources of 1 BD module so not surprising at all. Hope we get more accurate numbers soon.

Which chart?
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Clever! That one only took 16 pages.

     
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Comes close mean still behind Intel and Nvidia. I still buy Intell cpus
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Comes close mean still behind Intel and Nvidia. I still buy Intell cpus

 

With your resolution the price-bracket equal to your 970 (r9 390) isn't really "behind" Nvidia at all. IMHO you've got to look at the products you're buying, not the brands in a vacuum. For instance, somebody in the market for an i7 may find a compelling product in Zen where somebody looking to pick up a 6950x probably won't.

     
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With your resolution the price-bracket equal to your 970 (r9 390) isn't really "behind" Nvidia at all. IMHO you've got to look at the products you're buying, not the brands in a vacuum. For instance, somebody in the market for an i7 may find a compelling product in Zen where somebody looking to pick up a 6950x probably won't.

He probably bought it at a price that couldn't be passed up. Or something. Smh
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