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meh I prefer price over performance while gaming.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

The ridiculous marketing in the run-up to the bulldozer launch makes me question anything AMD says about an upcoming CPU release. But at least we know that they got the right guy to design the chip.

Sort of my thought. They hyped Bulldozer up so bad and then it just fell flat when it didn't perform.

I'll remain cautiously optimistic and hope for the best from AMD. I really want to see them be competitive with Intel again. I'll see it when I see it though.
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so they first make a disclosure that theyre 2nd in all those departsments...

this i not good guys for a company itself to say that its "2nd" means its admitting defeat
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so they first make a disclosure that theyre 2nd in all those departsments...

this i not good guys for a company itself to say that its "2nd" means its admitting defeat

I'm fine with second, as long as it's a real close second for a great deal.
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I'm fine with second, as long as it's a real close second for a great deal.

companies dont use those words unless they are in damage control mode
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this is not an optimistic statement for high-end users.

zen is not a low end cpu
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hope they get better sata performance and dont put sata exspress on zen chipsets, its waste of space on boards.

does anyone use sata express? I mean i know people use m2 drives, which generally share bandwidth with pci-e. Does anyone actually use the actual sata express ports? Sata performance is fine on AMD platforms, it might be a tad slower than Intel's but it's only 20-30mbs from my experience using a sata 6.0gbps ssd.

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Benchmarks can't come soon enough. Talk is cheap.

Yes, but we haven't seen am4 boards yet. In due time, october is getting closer and closer. If you want an idea of performance look at Broadwell-E, pretty sure AMD will at least match that in most workloads.
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so they first make a disclosure that theyre 2nd in all those departsments...

this i not good guys for a company itself to say that its "2nd" means its admitting defeat

I don't think anybody who knew anything expected them to beat Intel with Zen. What we did expect was at least getting close to Haswell levels of per-core performance, and if it is there I will buy it without a second thought.
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Funny when people consider Intel + Nvidia the other team. About a decade ago, the typical system pairing was AMD Athlon 64 with a Nvidia graphics card or an Intel Pentium 4 with a Radeon graphics card.

As far as the affordability argument goes, the latest (still from 2012) enthusiast AMD CPUs are a more expensive CPU when you consider the total package cost, you need to get the expensive motherboard and power supply and CPU cooler so you can overclock the CPU (and still not reach Intel performance), as opposed to buying a low end i5 with a low end business class motherboard, low wattage power supply, and the stock cooler.
    
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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

This was my first thought as well... What about when AMD actually had a superior design? John Taylor might want to brush up on AMD's history.

It's not about having the fastest processor,it's about marketshare. AMD has never even been really close to matching Intel overall.
Edited by Redwoodz - 5/17/16 at 7:40am
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