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here we are in 2016 and single threaded performance still matters....

wow.
Single thread performance will ALWAYS matter, because it gets multiplied by the core count.
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Don't 9590's come with a clc water cooler? I think he/she meant you don't need to add to that $350 by buying a better cooler.

No, they don't. You can pay extra for the special edition with a garbage 120mm CLC but the "cheap" 9590 is just the chip only. Its a waste of money anyways, an 8370 is cheaper and will likely clock higher.
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I'm pretty sure that during Athlon vs PIII they were closer (if not ahead)
Same with Athlon XP vs Willamette... and Athlon 64 vs Prescott.
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Wasn't the Athlon Thunderbird 1.0GHz actually better than Intel at the time? I had one of those.
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I'm not really sure what you mean. An FX-9590 and motherboard together run about $350. No special power supply is needed. No overclocking is needed. No special heatsink is required.

Well, looking at newegg really quick, i5 6500 $200, Gigabyte GA-H110M $55, so $255.
    
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Wasn't the Athlon Thunderbird 1.0GHz actually better than Intel at the time? I had one of those.

Depends on who you ask but... yes the Athlon Tbird was pretty solid.

THE system to have would've likely been dual PIIIs though.
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No, they don't. You can pay extra for the special edition with a garbage 120mm CLC but the "cheap" 9590 is just the chip only. Its a waste of money anyways, an 8370 is cheaper and will likely clock higher.

Ahhh I see, thought all of the 9k series came with those liquid coolers, i stand corrected.
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Please dont be another bulldozer.... please... I remember bulldozer was so bad they didnt even want to talk about it during a conference back in 2011.... That was the day I bought my 2500K. (I owned a 1090T before that)

Funny, that was around the same time I purchased my first ever Intel - also a 2500k tongue.gif
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Depends on who you ask but... yes the Athlon Tbird was pretty solid.

THE system to have would've likely been dual PIIIs though.

I remember Dad had a dual Socket A board with a couple of Palomino's (or were they Thunderbirds?) that was jealousy inducing. Pretty sure it would go toe to toe with any of those PIIIs.
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That chip has a 220W TDP, and you say "No special heatsink". Want to buy a bridge?
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Don't 9590's come with a clc water cooler? I think he/she meant you don't need to add to that $350 by buying a better cooler.

A decade-old $30 heatsink I had on my shelf cooled an FX-9590 under full load without any problem. I consider that to be no special heatsink. You may keep your bridge.
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Well, looking at newegg really quick, i5 6500 $200, Gigabyte GA-H110M $55, so $255.

Ok, if you want to move market segments then pick out a cheaper AMD processor and motherboard. I purposely picked out the fastest and most expensive AMD processor there was to show the low price ceiling. Still not sure what your point is other than wanting to win an argument.
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I have a 4930k that I plan to update with Zen, provided it can provide similar performance with all the new features my current platform is missing.
I would love to support them, but I just can't do it blindly...

I hope they make some great strides this year!!
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