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Predictions for zen ?

I think from everything i've read in the last 8 months or so

I'm very confident of an 6core zen being at least 25% faster than a i7-4770K

inb4 someone laughs at me biggrin.gif

Seriously though

if anyone thinks AMD will put will bring out a chip that is slower than a 2gen old intel

then in my eyes and a lot of others AMD is finished (at least in the enthusiast market)

and if they're actually slower then they better be at least 50 or even 100 less than the comparable intel chip.

While on polaris i really don't know what to expect. tongue.gif
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I believe this is another one of those overpromise and underdeliver thing by AMD.
Of course i want it to be true. Intel has stagnated the CPU market since Sandy Bridge due to little to no competition by AMD but I'm not going to hold my breath on this one.
    
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Jesus, this thread. AMD says Bulldozer will be great, it flops. AMD says Zen will improve their #2 standing, people call it over-hyping. A lot of you AMD bashers don't grasp that most of the people you call "AMD fanboys" are just people with objective views.

 

I don't think Jim Keller signed on to help churn out some junk. I fully expect Zen to be competitive, Haswell-level single-thread performance in some areas with strong multi-threaded performance.

     
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post #84 of 187
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I believe this is another one of those overpromise and underdeliver thing by AMD.
Of course i want it to be true. Intel has stagnated the CPU market since Sandy Bridge due to little to no competition by AMD but I'm not going to hold my breath on this one.

What has AMD promised?
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What has AMD promised?

 

It's Bulldozer, mate. Bulldozer forever. I swear, a lot of people around here had their life's savings tied up in AMD stock for Bulldozer or something. That wound is still fresh.

     
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It's Bulldozer, mate. Bulldozer forever. I swear, a lot of people around here had their life's savings tied up in AMD stock for Bulldozer or something. That wound is still fresh.

The community hyped up Bulldozer and followed some AMD forum user like he was a god and looked away from everything indicating it was going to be bad.
But its always AMD's fault
    
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It's Bulldozer, mate. Bulldozer forever. I swear, a lot of people around here had their life's savings tied up in AMD stock for Bulldozer or something. That wound is still fresh.

I remember Bulldozer...worse than my Nam flashbacks.
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Jesus, this thread. AMD says Bulldozer will be great, it flops. AMD says Zen will improve their #2 standing, people call it over-hyping. A lot of you AMD bashers don't grasp that most of the people you call "AMD fanboys" are just people with objective views.

I don't think Jim Keller signed on to help churn out some junk. I fully expect Zen to be competitive, Haswell-level single-thread performance in some areas with strong multi-threaded performance.

Finally someone gets it.

Rather than compare the merits of something,it becomes a garbled mess of 'market share' and 'drivers'...its like its all they know what to communicate about.

Zen will be good,if they retain the fully manual FSB and NB clocking then Im sold. I did love my AMD days,I would like to revisit them soon,rigs do seem to be more....'fluid' (if thats the best term) with an AMD CPU.
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I remember Bulldozer...worse than my Nam flashbacks.

 

I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande Bulldozer.

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Finally someone gets it.

Rather than compare the merits of something,it becomes a garbled mess of 'market share' and 'drivers'...its like its all they know what to communicate about.

Zen will be good,if they retain the fully manual FSB and NB clocking then Im sold. I did love my AMD days,I would like to revisit them soon,rigs do seem to be more....'fluid' (if thats the best term) with an AMD CPU.

 

I love overclocking on an AMD platform. Intel overclocking is just so... sterile. Even with an 'unlocked' processor you feel like they're pushing you down a specific path. I keep a Vishy rig around because I love messing about with the 8320, it's loads of fun to tweak. OC'ing my 3770k and now this 6700k are all about business, just get that best stable clock, lock it down, and forget about it. My real hope is that Zen+ gives us something akin to HEDT, I'd bench the daylight out of that chip. Realistically though I'll be pleased with a solid i7 competitor.

     
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Yeah overclocking on Intel is much less of a hassle, not sure why that's a reason to complain rolleyes.gif
    
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