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I will just leave this here, rolleyes.gifthumb.gif

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Edit, This was no effort at all.

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Edited by Trys0meM0re - 5/29/16 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

And this confirms that Pascal is basically Maxwell on 16nm FF, except with even more horrendous voltage scaling on air/water (something which I thought was impossible). doh.gif
Long time? No not really it only started with Maxwell. Kepler scaled like a beast with voltage on air/water.

If you take GTX980 Ti and change nothing but put it to 16nm it would mean Nvidia can run higher clocks with same cooler. This is what Pascal does for them. Run 1.8Ghz out of the box. They could have sold GTX1080 as a 1.4GHz card for $550 and then OC to 2.1 GHz and people would have gone crazy but now you are basically paying for an overclocked card. Like the days we used to pay a lot of money for extra 200mHz on CPUs.
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I mean, if 2200MHz is really the limit, why not just get one of the cheaper cards that can do ~2150Mhz and save yourself some money? Not much point with FTW cards or Extreme cards if all AIBs are able to hit the same limit

Agreed, if true. I would just go with reference PCB for watercooling again, and with the $620 range AIB cards otherwise such as that Asus Strix.
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Does seems like 8+8 is a waste now yes. 1x8+1x6pin is maybe a stretch too. 1x8 might be all we need since the cards can`t go higher anyway.
Whats needed is a AIB card with a vbios that doesnt lock it at 175W and refuse to go above and a cooler that doesnt cause it to throttle at 82C

So in reality people calling MSI out on cheaping out the G1 cards, perhaps MSI knew 1x8pin is all you need anyway...

Actually that last bit is because MSI is using the reference PCB forced as a result of the collaboration with Corsair. The Corsair HG10 980 (works for reference 1070 and 1080 also from what I heard) is for reference PCBs only. Either way, 8-pin should suffice for most people unless there is unlocked voltage. Violating PCI-E specs isn't anything new, and an 8-pin connector can easily provide 200+ watts by itself.
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for those that don't know:

more quality VRMs the better - less heat more efficiency.

more power connections the better - less ripple in the current.

need 200 watts? design for 400 watts FTW thumb.gif
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So how much better for OC will EVGA Classified be over FTW based on design alone?
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Look's like a mid overclock 1080 versus mid overclock 980Ti is about ~25% faster. Not too shabby.

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So how much better for OC will EVGA Classified be over FTW based on design alone?

I'd say absolutely none. The FTW already has plenty of power and the same cooling.
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If you take GTX980 Ti and change nothing but put it to 16nm it would mean Nvidia can run higher clocks with same cooler. This is what Pascal does for them. Run 1.8Ghz out of the box. They could have sold GTX1080 as a 1.4GHz card for $550 and then OC to 2.1 GHz and people would have gone crazy but now you are basically paying for an overclocked card. Like the days we used to pay a lot of money for extra 200mHz on CPUs.

Well they can't clock 1080 that low because then it would only be around 10-15% faster than 980 Ti. But yes it does seem like they really juiced Pascal and used up a lot of the OC headroom.
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Well they can't clock 1080 that low because then it would only be around 10-15% faster than 980 Ti. But yes it does seem like they really juiced Pascal and used up a lot of the OC headroom.

GTX980 was only 5-10% faster then 780 Ti. They could have done that. Same thing with GTX680. Just just pushed the clocks both times in order to price them higher.
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So, apparently all LN2 hype is done for once i remember the fact that there's this weird 1.25V limit on this card, and it simply refuses to work above it.

It will work above it, if someone were to come out with a real volt unlock , such as what happened with OG Titans. But, that was kind of a one off when Alexey unlocked access to Nvidia's voltage controller in A/B. It was around the same time that he had his tiff with his former contractor, but not sure if that was the reason though. Haven't seen it happen since then, and doubt that it will happen again, unless it was officially sanctioned for a model.
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