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From what I saw the gains weren't even that substantial. Its underhanded yes but hardly damaging results.
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From what I saw the gains weren't even that substantial. Its underhanded yes but hardly damaging results.

The only way there was even a gain is if there special bios is what allowed the card to boost up to 2050mhz.
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This launch feels like it was rushed out about a month early in order to eat up as much press coverage as possible before AMD launches their cards. There is a new rumor that supply shortages won't clear up until the end of July to early August. 2 months is a long time before you have a steady supply, even for a paper launch 2 months would be too long.

Oh wow. How reliable is that rumor?
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Heck if I know, hopefully it is not the least bit reliable... like so unreliable that the exact opposite is the truth and stock will be full tomorrow!

Not sure though.
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Would the shortage also be effecting the lack of AIB cards we're seeing? If AMD has a better stock for their Polaris cards they could potentially take a substantial piece of the market with them regardless of the performance gains of NVidia's 10 series due to lack of stock.
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It's not like there are significant upcoming games in the summer,maybe deus ex late august,patience will pay off for those who hold off.Gpu scenery has changed rapidly last month,480 late june,maybe 480x/490 around autumn and we also have that 6tflops xbox scorpio making sony scratching their heads and possibly revising neo specs.

Can't have console gpus so close to pc,maybe that'll make nvidia hasten their 1080ti,just in time for holidays so as not to have many pc gamers turn to $600-$700 boxes(according to rumors),that many $ is better spend on their hardware that's how a company looking to max profit would see it.
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It's not like there are significant upcoming games in the summer,maybe deus ex late august,patience will pay off for those who hold off.Gpu scenery has changed rapidly last month,480 late june,maybe 480x/490 around autumn and we also have that 6tflops xbox scorpio making sony scratching their heads and possibly revising neo specs.

Can't have console gpus so close to pc,maybe that'll make nvidia hasten their 1080ti,just in time for holidays so as not to have many pc gamers turn to $600-$700 boxes(according to rumors),that many $ is better spend on their hardware that's how a company looking to max profit would see it.

Scorpio isn't expected till Q4 2017. Its not going to have anyone rethinking anything for awhile.
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Oh wow. How reliable is that rumor?

I'll give you a hint: GDDR5X doesn't reach volume production until "summer".
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I'll give you a hint: GDDR5X doesn't reach volume production until "summer".

That would leave more than a few people in an interesting situation. A good number of people dumped their Maxwell cards in the weeks leading up to the Pascal launch in the hopes of beating the inevitable value drop in the older cards. Those folks might be waiting longer than they bargained for.

Perhaps the 980 Ti price drops we're seeing today aren't so much a result of the the Pascal launch but rather just the lack thereof. Maybe those prices are to entice people to buy a 980 Ti since there's effectively no 1070/1080 to offer them.
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bottom line is a customer ought to expect to have the same experience as a reviewer - including clock speeds

Are you saying they wouldn't? Since the card is boosting to 2050mhz, well beyond the rated boost speeds for either mode, without any user intervention I don't see how the experience would be any different.


With the Nvidia boost it is nearly impossible to get an identical experience as the reviewer. There are too many variables that determine the actual boost speed observed in a given system. We are talking about rated speed difference of 38mhz, Nvidia boost went 114mhz over that number on it's own.

Let's try and use our brains for a few minutes folks.

i guess you're not considering the difference between OC and gaming mode - which is only enabled through the AIB software.



when a review shows 1709/1848 but a consumer gets 1683/1823 that is not right. it doesn't need much brain power to understand ethics. wink.gif
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