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Or don't buy them, and wait for the starving companies to drop their prices.

Worked for AMD, they seem to have learned their lesson.
Perhaps. Mr Jensen actually said 'We don't set the prices, our competition does'. And looking at AMD's prices for their flagship cards.. that seems to hold up. AMD has massively overpriced those for a non-market-leader and thus allowing Nvidia to charge the way they do because you don't have an alternative if you want a certain performance level.

I was looking for a mainstream card for my HTPC last week.. and really I can save 10% with AMD and get 50% more heat. It's really not funny. Except for their 380 that found a hole in NVidia lineup, it's a rubbish alternative at most points. I hope they'll improve the whole price/performance situation with their RX480/490. At the top end, it seems that AMD is still more interested in milking their own fanboys through selling factory-overclocked-to-the-max cards rather than challenging anything.

Now where is my 1080?? tongue.gif
Edited by 44TZL - 6/20/16 at 6:44am
     
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Originally Posted by 44TZL View Post

Perhaps. Mr Jensen actually said 'We don't set the prices, our competition does'. And looking at AMD's prices for their flagship cards.. that seems to hold up. AMD has massively overpriced those for a non-market-leader and thus allowing Nvidia to charge the way they do because you don't have an alternative if you want a certain performance level.

I was looking for a mainstream card for my HTPC last week.. and really I can save 10% with AMD and get 50% more heat. It's really not funny. Except for their 380 that found a hole in NVidia lineup, it's a rubbish alternative at most points. I hope they'll improve the whole price/performance situation with their RX480/490. At the top end, it seems that AMD is still more interested in milking their own fanboys through selling factory-overclocked-to-the-max cards rather than challenging anything.

You're in Australia. GPU prices down there are black magic.

Beyond that, you described exactly what I was saying. AMD's positioning was crap and people weren't buying because they weren't undercutting Nvidia. So far with Polaris it looks like things are changing this year.

Shame that both of these companies have really gotten a hard-on for this habit of releasing a front runner card or two early on, and then waiting several months for the rest of the line-up. I need an upgrade and the 1080 doesn't impress me.
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Originally Posted by 44TZL View Post

Perhaps. Mr Jensen actually said 'We don't set the prices, our competition does'. And looking at AMD's prices for their flagship cards.. that seems to hold up. AMD has massively overpriced those for a non-market-leader and thus allowing Nvidia to charge the way they do because you don't have an alternative if you want a certain performance level.

I was looking for a mainstream card for my HTPC last week.. and really I can save 10% with AMD and get 50% more heat. It's really not funny. Except for their 380 that found a hole in NVidia lineup, it's a rubbish alternative at most points. I hope they'll improve the whole price/performance situation with their RX480/490. At the top end, it seems that AMD is still more interested in milking their own fanboys through selling factory-overclocked-to-the-max cards rather than challenging anything.

Good points and I agree. That said, have you seen the 480 reference on the inside? IF not, check it out. worriedsmiley.gif
Sure does make nVidias reference design look like it's worth gold in comparison... lol

Link: http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/22296-xfx-radeon-rx-480-med-referensdesign-och-tackplat-i-produktion
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I'm very confused as to why people keep mentioning RX480 in this thread again and again, what exactly does it have to do with GTX1080? NOTHING. It doesn't compete with GTX1080 in any way. Target audiences for these GPUs are entirely different.
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Good points and I agree. That said, have you seen the 480 reference on the inside? IF not, check it out. worriedsmiley.gif
Sure does make nVidias reference design look like it's worth gold in comparison... lol

Link: http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/22296-xfx-radeon-rx-480-med-referensdesign-och-tackplat-i-produktion

The hell you say! A $200 card is made more cheaply than a $700 card??? Yep, "AMD is crap" confirmed! rolleyes.gif
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As long as she's got it where it counts.
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The hell you say! A $200 card is made more cheaply than a $700 card??? Yep, "AMD is crap" confirmed! rolleyes.gif

Dude, I responded to the guys claim about his past experience with something that looks to be even worse temp-wise.

@bigjdubb
Also, yes. I got it good, right between the eyes I would say.

sarcasm....
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Dude, I responded to the guys claim about his past experience with something that looks to be even worse temp-wise.

@bigjdubb
Also, yes. I got it good, right between the eyes I would say.

sarcasm....

You think the 480 is gonna run hotter than the 380? Ok then, no need to worry about your opinions anymore...
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You think the 480 is gonna run hotter than the 380? Ok then, no need to worry about your opinions anymore...

You and your lack of understanding........... mind boggling, to say the least.

I am complaining about the reference card, not Polaris. Watch the images and tell me it's a good cooler.
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You can cool 75w cards passively, I doubt you need much of a cooler for a 100w card. Overclocking and pushing voltages may lead to a bad day if the cooler isn't up to it though.
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