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Originally Posted by sugarhell View Post

Polaris is on 14nm and it's only a 230mm^2 die at peak max tdp at 150 watt. This product is not about raising the max performance but it's about raising the mid range market to the levels of the previous high performance models (not enthusiastic) . That's why it costs 200 bucks it's a mid range part and nothing else.

I'm aware of the directive they went with Polaris. But the 1080 is a midrange too and the 480 can't compete. But we can probably expect a Ti from the 1000 series. Where as AMD has made no mention of Polaris offering a high end card. I don't need you to explain their marketing strategy. But you have a card from Nvidia thats better than its competitors new cards, and better all 3 of its predecessors at a cheaper price than the 980 Ti at its launch and people still complain.
Edited by Brimlock - 6/23/16 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by BillOhio View Post

That depends by which standard you are measuring the cards, no?

It doesn't matter what standard you measure the cards. The 1080 is a proper successor to the 980 and by standards of the past I see no reason why Nvidia should be receiving flak for the pricing of a brand new card on a new architecture with some of its new technology just barely starting mass production. By all means they probably could of priced the card even higher.

And lets not ignore my argument about the pricing of previous generations. Its a fairly strong point to argue.
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Originally Posted by Brimlock View Post

I'm aware of the directive they went with Polaris. But the 1080 is a midrange too and the 480 can't compete.

The 1080 is the higher mid range chip of nvidia and it belongs to the performance segment. It's between 150-200 watt tdp.

480 is a pitcairn replacement on the tdp gpu stack up (100-150 watt). The 480 will fight with the 1060 not the GP104

And the pricing is not working like that. Because you have progress (new techs,nodes etc etc) and you beat your old products that doesn't mean that you have to increases your prices especially on your mid range chip. But well that is marketing for you
Edited by sugarhell - 6/23/16 at 4:27pm
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The 1080 is the higher mid range chip of nvidia and it belongs to the performance segment. It's between 150-200 watt tdp.

480 is a pitcairn replacement on the tdp gpu stack up (100-150 watt). The 480 will fight with the 1060 not the GP104

Ok that's peachy but back on topic about peoples complaint about the 1080 and its pricing. I can't rationalize the complaints people make.
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Ok that's peachy but back on topic about peoples complaint about the 1080 and its pricing. I can't rationalize the complaints people make.

They can do whatever they want. I complain too.

We can't agree with everyone redface.gif
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They can do whatever they want. I complain too.

We can't agree with everyone redface.gif

Not saying they can't. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense why they are doing it now, when 3 years ago the 700 series did the exact same thing and I heard no one complain about it.
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Ok that's peachy but back on topic about peoples complaint about the 1080 and its pricing. I can't rationalize the complaints people make.

 

$650 would have been a fair price for the new and improved *80. $699 was too much for a reference card that offers no significant advantages versus AIB models starting at an MSRP of $599. The complaints that you're so concerned with are almost uniformly directed towards the FE pricing. It's possible to like everything else about the card (and I think it's good, but not perfect), and still think that a $100 increase over the previous *80 is a bit much. It's a subjective metric so if you feel that $699 is completely justified then great. I wouldn't tell anybody how to spend their money and if they think it's a great value or simply worth it and want that FE, more power to them.

     
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$650 would have been a fair price for the new and improved *80. $699 was too much for a reference card that offers no significant advantages versus AIB models starting at an MSRP of $599. The complaints that you're so concerned with are almost uniformly directed towards the FE pricing. It's possible to like everything else about the card (and I think it's good, but not perfect), and still think that a $100 increase over the previous *80 is a bit much. It's a subjective metric so if you feel that $699 is completely justified then great. I wouldn't tell anybody how to spend their money and if they think it's a great value or simply worth it and want that FE, more power to them.

But everyone already knew there would be AIB cards coming around for a cheaper price than the FE. Its nothing that hasn't been done before. Why is this generation so different than previous generations?
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But everyone already knew there would be AIB cards coming around for a cheaper price than the FE. Its nothing that hasn't been done before. Why is this generation so different than previous generations?

Where are the cheaper AIB cards? I dont know about america or other regions but here on europe all of the AIB cards match the price of the FE . Well the G1 here costs 980 euro.
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Where are the cheaper AIB cards? I dont know about america or other regions but here on europe all of the AIB cards match the price of the FE . Well the G1 here costs 980 euro.

I'm sorry you get priced gouged for being in another place. Clearly my being in America means I can't argue on your behalf. But I am aware that that price isn't just because of the cards pricing but because of the VAT tax placed on it. Which is something that needs to be taken up by you guys with whoever is in charge of that. Not Nvidia.
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