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Originally Posted by Ghoxt View Post

Being that it's not, Nvidia will incrementally milk this cow. Look at Kepler...and that was bad.

Are you talking about the whole driver crippling thing with kepler? Was that mainly just a few games that were bad ports? edit: or was it where nvidia admitted to some driver issue and fixed it after a while?
I still have SLI 780Ti's and they seem to be still holding their own on 1080p and 5880x1080 (with a few graphics downgrades smile.gif )
VRAM limitations are obviously starting to be an issue with surround gaming on newer titles, but at 1080p things seem decent.

Now with people talking down the performance of the latest batch of cards I'm wondering if I don't wait for VEGA or something else from the following gen.
Edited by spinFX - 7/8/16 at 10:17am
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Are you talking about the whole driver crippling thing with kepler? Was that mainly just a few games that were bad ports? edit: or was it where nvidia admitted to some driver issue and fixed it after a while?
I still have SLI 780Ti's and they seem to be still holding their own on 1080p and 5880x1080 (with a few graphics downgrades smile.gif )
VRAM limitations are obviously starting to be an issue with surround gaming on newer titles, but at 1080p things seem decent.
no I think he means 780 - 780Ti launch
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Originally Posted by spinFX View Post

Are you talking about the whole driver crippling thing with kepler? Was that mainly just a few games that were bad ports? edit: or was it where nvidia admitted to some driver issue and fixed it after a while?
I still have SLI 780Ti's and they seem to be still holding their own on 1080p and 5880x1080 (with a few graphics downgrades smile.gif )
VRAM limitations are obviously starting to be an issue with surround gaming on newer titles, but at 1080p things seem decent.

Now with people talking down the performance of the latest batch of cards I'm wondering if I don't wait for VEGA or something else from the following gen.

 

No not talking about drivers at all , I was specifically talking to Nvidia slowly releasing card after card with a slight bump in performance in the Kepler architecture over time basically milking that architecture incrementally for all it was worth even though they had the highest performance models from day one in their possession. Their Business model of course.

 

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no I think he means 780 - 780Ti launch
 
Yup you are correct. Of course alot of this was AIB as well. EVGA and others...

780

Titan

780Ti

Titan Black

780 Ti Classifieds

Kingpin

Hydro 780

Hydro Classified

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Edited by Ghoxt - 7/8/16 at 1:18pm
post #114 of 127
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No not talking about drivers at all , I was specifically talking to Nvidia slowly releasing card after card with a slight bump in performance in the Kepler architecture over time basically milking that architecture incrementally for all it was worth even though they had the highest performance models from day one in their possession. Their Business model of course.

780
Titan
780Ti
Titan Black
780 Ti Classifieds
Kingpin
Hydro 780
Hydro Classified
....

The Titan's took the milking to a new level, and now the Founder's Edition to a new level again that's for sure. However you can't really complain about having the GTX 780 and GTX 780 Ti while not complaining about the R9 290, R9 290X, R9 390, and R9 390X. Then there's the HD 7970, HD 7970 GHz edition, R9 280X. AMD = rebadge king
Edited by boredgunner - 7/8/16 at 1:41pm
 
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The Titan's took the milking to a new level, and now the Founder's Edition to a new level again that's for sure. However you can't really complain about having the GTX 780 and GTX 780 Ti while not complaining about the R9 290, R9 290X, R9 390, and R9 390X. Then there's the HD 7970, HD 7970 GHz edition, R9 280X. AMD = rebadge king
AMD refreshed the Hawaii GPUs for the 300 series while NVIDIA did not, yes, but bringing up the HD 7970 and R9 280X is silly as NVIDIA did the exact same thing with the 680 and 770. The R9 280X and GTX 770 are both former flagships with similar performance at the time that were refreshed to a lower tier product for the next generation of cards, though the 7970/280X runs laps around the 680/770 today.
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I'll definitely wait. My gtx 980 ti will remain in my PC for more than a year or two until VOLTA cards arrive smile.gif
That's what I was thinking. If I can get the money together and it's worth doing with a HTC Vive, I'd bother. Otherwise my 980 Ti Lightning is doing just fine as is.
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AMD refreshed the Hawaii GPUs for the 300 series while NVIDIA did not, yes, but bringing up the HD 7970 and R9 280X is silly as NVIDIA did the exact same thing with the 680 and 770. The R9 280X and GTX 770 are both former flagships with similar performance at the time that were refreshed to a lower tier product for the next generation of cards, though the 7970/280X runs laps around the 680/770 today.

Well my point was that both companies do things like that. NVIDIA might actually have rebadged a card the most, now that I think about it. 8800GTS G92 -> 9800GTX -> 9800GTX+ -> GTS 250 (although they did go from 65nm to 55nm during this).
 
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That's what I was thinking. If I can get the money together and it's worth doing with a HTC Vive, I'd bother. Otherwise my 980 Ti Lightning is doing just fine as is.
Upgrading every two or three releases is the way to do it in my book, though naturally there's nothing stopping people from upgrading every release if they feel it's worth it.
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Well my point was that both companies do things like that. NVIDIA might actually have rebadged a card the most, now that I think about it. 8800GTS G92 -> 9800GTX -> 9800GTX+ -> GTS 250 (although they did go from 65nm to 55nm during this).
Yep, they both do it. Take the 860M and 960M for a recent NVIDIA example. Refreshes aren't as exciting as new cards perhaps, but honestly I don't think it's too big of a deal as long as the price and performance are good.
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I never learn my lesson, but I'm sure Nvidia is hoping that their customers have the urge to buy every new iteration of GPU card that gets released. After the somewhat trivial benefits from comparing my 980Ti (OC'd) vs. a 1080, I'm going to strictly stick with Ti cards. The best cards I've ever owned were the 780Ti and 980Ti. So after returning my 1080, my bank account was replenished by $750 and realized that the benchmarks I see on websites can be skewed. Sure, the 1080 can run at uber frames per second using 4x MSAA and Hairworks On and blah blah blah. But not everyone maxes out everything in their game settings. I for one use minimal anti-aliasing (since I have a 1440p monitor) and I don't care much for HairWorks, depth of field, bloom, motion blur, etc. etc. etc. So even with a 980Ti, most of the games I play are already over 100fps (with an exception of a few like Evil Within, Black Flag, GTA V).
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No not talking about drivers at all , I was specifically talking to Nvidia slowly releasing card after card with a slight bump in performance in the Kepler architecture over time basically milking that architecture incrementally for all it was worth even though they had the highest performance models from day one in their possession. Their Business model of course.

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Ah right I see what you're getting at. Hmm
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