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Originally Posted by Ghoxt View Post

No not talking about drivers at all , I was specifically talking to Nvidia slowly releasing card after card with a slight bump in performance in the Kepler architecture over time basically milking that architecture incrementally for all it was worth even though they had the highest performance models from day one in their possession. Their Business model of course.

780
Titan
780Ti
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Kingpin
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If you had put Maxwell instead of Kepler here, you'd be right.

It looks like Nvidia sat on 980 Ti waiting for the right time to release it.

780 ti? No, they just got lucky that yields for the full GK110 were better by then after GK100 didn't pan out.

Look at the release date of the Tesla K40. It's November 2013 same as the 780 Ti. The Tesla K40 was the first fully working GK110 chip.
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I never learn my lesson, but I'm sure Nvidia is hoping that their customers have the urge to buy every new iteration of GPU card that gets released. After the somewhat trivial benefits from comparing my 980Ti (OC'd) vs. a 1080, I'm going to strictly stick with Ti cards. The best cards I've ever owned were the 780Ti and 980Ti. So after returning my 1080, my bank account was replenished by $750 and realized that the benchmarks I see on websites can be skewed. Sure, the 1080 can run at uber frames per second using 4x MSAA and Hairworks On and blah blah blah. But not everyone maxes out everything in their game settings. I for one use minimal anti-aliasing (since I have a 1440p monitor) and I don't care much for HairWorks, depth of field, bloom, motion blur, etc. etc. etc. So even with a 980Ti, most of the games I play are already over 100fps (with an exception of a few like Evil Within, Black Flag, GTA V).

That was stupid from the start. The 1080 is NOT MEANT for 980Ti owners. I mean its like you guys are brain dead or simply cannot grasp it. The 1080 is a direct successor to the 980. That is WHO it is targeted for. 980 owners looking for a big upgrade to the 1080. NOT 980TI OWNERS. DO WE UNDERSTAND YET? The 1080 Ti should absolutely stomp the 980 Ti and then some. You cant compare it to a 1080 when it hits. Its not even fair.
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That was stupid from the start. The 1080 is NOT MEANT for 980Ti owners. I mean its like you guys are brain dead or simply cannot grasp it. The 1080 is a direct successor to the 980. That is WHO it is targeted for. 980 owners looking for a big upgrade to the 1080. NOT 980TI OWNERS. DO WE UNDERSTAND YET? The 1080 Ti should absolutely stomp the 980 Ti and then some. You cant compare it to a 1080 when it hits. Its not even fair.
lol you've gone wild

all depends on the cost of the trade off.
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That was stupid from the start. The 1080 is NOT MEANT for 980Ti owners. I mean its like you guys are brain dead or simply cannot grasp it.

Yet Nvidia's own CEO brags about the 1080 claims it outperforms 980s in SLI (which actually gives you better performance than a single 980Ti). Hell, he even posts charts showing the 1080 with WHOPPING performance gains above all 900 series cards. So how............................ was this NOT meant for 980Ti owners? I don't think Nvidia ever said: "If you've got a 900 series card, don't buy a 1080 because it wouldn't benefit you." I think Nvidia is as guilty as Apple in regards to over-marketing and over-hyping the crap out of their products.
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Yet Nvidia's own CEO brags about the 1080 claims it outperforms 980s in SLI (which actually gives you better performance than a single 980Ti). Hell, he even posts charts showing the 1080 with WHOPPING performance gains above all 900 series cards. So how............................ was this NOT meant for 980Ti owners? I don't think Nvidia ever said: "If you've got a 900 series card, don't buy a 1080 because it wouldn't benefit you." I think Nvidia is as guilty as Apple in regards to over-marketing and over-hyping the crap out of their products.

And it works. You just have to be in the winning side and you can get ways with it.
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And it works. You just have to be in the winning side and you can get ways with it.
I agree! I just wanted to be able to see for myself what all the hooplah and hype was all about. I got my money back so I win regardless. Rather than criticize a card that I've never personally owned. I think the only successful setup I've used that made 4K run acceptably at 60+ fps is a 980Ti SLI setup. Other than that, the 980Ti should last me another year (just like my 780Ti lasted me for a few years before I upgraded to a 980
then a a 980Ti).
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Money wasting fringe opinion reporting in:

I chose to wait too in replacing out my existing Titan X SLI setup. The reason why?

The poor availability of EK water blocks and backplates for non reference 1080s.

After reading all over the place that the single 8 pin gimps OCing the 1080, even more so under custom water, I said I'm not buying a reference model. And after going custom water (was really fun to build and I like the silence), I refuse to use air cooled cards again.

EK really drug their feet on releasing water blocks that would fit the dual power plug cards and they STILL dont have back plates for the dual power plug cards. Now that people are talking about at the Titan Next or whatever its called being announced in August, I've decided to wait for a pair of those. Im guessing those will come with 2 x power plugs straight from the factory so OEM cards will be fine with me.
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