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post #81 of 127
Looking at TechPowerUp's review of the GTX 1080, the average performance improvements at 2560x1440 over 16 games are the following:
780 to 780 Ti +24%
780 Ti to 980 +18%
980 to 980 Ti +22%
980 Ti to 1080 +37%

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At stock, how is the 1080 disappointing? It is significantly faster than the 980 Ti while also drawing a lot less power. The 980 Ti does appear to overclock a lot better, but we don't have the full picture yet for the GTX 1080 as there is no custom BIOS. Even if custom BIOS turns out to have a relatively small impact on how high it will go, it should still help to close the overclocking gap to some extent.

If you upgrade every time a new graphics card is released, naturally the difference in performance is not going to be mind blowing.
post #82 of 127
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Originally Posted by versions View Post

Looking at TechPowerUp's review of the GTX 1080, the average performance improvements at 2560x1440 over 16 games are the following:
780 to 780 Ti +24%
780 Ti to 980 +18%
980 to 980 Ti +22%
980 Ti to 1080 +37%

Source

At stock, how is the 1080 disappointing? It is significantly faster than the 980 Ti while also drawing a lot less power. The 980 Ti does appear to overclock a lot better, but we don't have the full picture yet for the GTX 1080 as there is no custom BIOS. Even if custom BIOS turns out to have a relatively small impact on how high it will go, it should still help to close the overclocking gap to some extent.

If you upgrade every time a new graphics card is released, naturally the difference in performance is not going to be mind blowing.

Because all the others cards are on the same node (28nm). This is 14nm so a lot of people expected better performance products.
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Worst i can't justify upgrading yet thread ever.
post #84 of 127
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Because all the others cards are on the same node (28nm). This is 14nm so a lot of people expected better performance products.

If we look at the last node drop 680 vs 580, the 1080 gap is much larger.

At $499, this card would be great.

At $600 not so much.
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post #85 of 127
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Because all the others cards are on the same node (28nm). This is 14nm so a lot of people expected better performance products.
GM200 is 601 mm² while GP104 is 314 mm², yet the GTX 1080 is 32% faster than the GTX Titan X. If you wait for the 1080 Ti, you'll get a large GPU to compare to GM200.

Like I said, if you upgrade every time a new flagship comes out, the difference is going to be smaller than it otherwise would be. The GTX Titan is the most recent NVIDIA GPU release that was a bigger upgrade from it's predecessor than the GTX 1080 (43% at the time, looking at the TPU review for the Titan).
post #86 of 127
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If we look at the last node drop 680 vs 580, the 1080 gap is much larger.

At $499, this card would be great.

At $600 not so much.

At $499 this card would be cheaper than the 980 when it launched.

Did you complain this much about the 980's price?

Did you complain about how underwhelmed you were by the fact that the 980 was just about equal with the 780 Ti in performance, and sometimes even slower than the 780 Ti when it launched?


Did you whine and cry this much about a $550 GTX 980 that did this:





Compared to the 9XX series the 1080 is a fantastic, huge leap. Would you be happier paying $550 for a card that was SLOWER than the 980 Ti like you did when the 980 launched and was SLOWER than a 780 Ti?
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If we look at the last node drop 680 vs 580, the 1080 gap is much larger.

At $499, this card would be great.

At $600 not so much.

But 28nm->16nm is almost two nodes down compared to 40nm -> 28nm

Agree about the price
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At $499 this card would be cheaper than the 980 when it launched.

Did you complain this much about the 980's price?

Did you complain about how underwhelmed you were by the fact that the 980 was just about equal with the 780 Ti in performance, and sometimes even slower than the 780 Ti when it launched?


Did you whine and cry this much about a $550 GTX 980 that did this:





Compared to the 9XX series the 1080 is a fantastic, huge leap. Would you be happier paying $550 for a card that was SLOWER than the 980 Ti like you did when the 980 launched and was SLOWER than a 780 Ti?
Something I would like to add that I thought of reading this post is at the time of launch, the GTX 980 was 5% faster than the 780 Ti in TechPowerUp's review at 2560x1600. Today, that number is 18%.
post #89 of 127
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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

Worst i can't justify upgrading yet thread ever.

Agreed..

The titel is stupid and misleading and it's basically meant to trigger folks since it's the best single card available, but if you're upgrading from a 980 Ti the gains won't be as massive, obviously. However, it's still better than the 980 Ti, there's no question about it unless you're into LN2, for now at least.
Edited by Pragmatist - 7/7/16 at 10:31am
post #90 of 127
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However, it's still better than the 980 Ti, there's no question about it unless you're into LN2, for now at least.

I can't see anyone running LN2 as a long term solution though. biggrin.gif

Regardless, clock for clock, Maxwell does scale better than Pascal... just wish AMD dished out Vega already.
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