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I got back into masters with Torb, and actually won a few games there (last season I just got there at end and stopped playing so I could end in masters lachen.gif). It's kind of relaxing now being at the bottom rung of a rank because I've already hit it for season high, and am really far away from next rank so I can just focus on improving and not think about SR at all. That's how it should always be, but it's hard to be 3430 and not be thinking about being 4 games away from ranking up, and getting frustrated if you lose.

Honestly high diamond and master is a pretty decent place to play competitively. People seem much more patient, understanding and encouraging... not like platinum and low diamond where people praise meta like it's the bible and turn deathly toxic the moment someone picks something they don't like. My secondary account is in master, and my main is at like 3040 right now... I honestly can't even stand to play on it, and it's not even the losing that i care about; it's all the crying kids. They think they are gods gift when they pick healer at the start and then all game you hear is "let me DPS i'm way better" "Our DPS is terrible", meanwhile they have been playing mercy holding rez all game and refusing to heal anyone because they are salty.
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guys. i consider myself a good player, but on my placement i have ppl disconnected and trolls, i have been placed in silver, and playing here is by far unpleasant, so, am i obligated to buy a another account just to rolls the dices and have better placement ? its gonna take me forever to rank up
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Cool. If you're looking to group drop me your battletag. I main DPS and group with several healer mains. We don't have many tank mains.

can i group up with you ? i play very decent, my main is MEI, second is soldier and phara, lucio and junkrat. i play according as needed, if defending or attacking, escorting, i adapt. i need a group so desperately.
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After placements I was put in 2285, and now i dropped 2260, lets see if I can hit plat, be awesome if I hit diamond this season. But my goal is plat.
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post #2015 of 2285
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Cool. If you're looking to group drop me your battletag. I main DPS and group with several healer mains. We don't have many tank mains.

I am Phara and D.Va main and my self consider as good with both of them...if you want add me: saint19#1421
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guys. i consider myself a good player, but on my placement i have ppl disconnected and trolls, i have been placed in silver, and playing here is by far unpleasant, so, am i obligated to buy a another account just to rolls the dices and have better placement ? its gonna take me forever to rank up

If you really belong at another rank it doesn't take too long to adjust.The placements tend to not put you too far though, silver is probably accurate for now if it's your first placement.
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If you really belong at another rank it doesn't take too long to adjust.The placements tend to not put you too far though, silver is probably accurate for now if it's your first placement.

thats what i thought, but still, its horrible/imposible to play or enjoy the game this way, its like i want to stop playing. here some example, we are defending and ppl select macree, gengi, freaking hanzo.. TO DEFEND....! and u kindly ask to change and make a plan and they say no, or on attacking, ppl picks freaking bastion and so on, its a wate of time
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thats what i thought, but still, its horrible/imposible to play or enjoy the game this way, its like i want to stop playing. here some example, we are defending and ppl select macree, gengi, freaking hanzo.. TO DEFEND....! and u kindly ask to change and make a plan and they say no, or on attacking, ppl picks freaking bastion and so on, its a wate of time

To be completely honest man, at lower ranks- hell even master, the team comp really does not matter a whole lot. I have won games in master with 3 supports and 3 tanks, and 5 dps 1 healer etc... Every hero has the ability to be effective, and if you just try to strategize and play a game that would more compliment what people are choosing rather than trying to get people to change you will find you win more games.

Also, Hanzo is technically a defense character, and bastion on attack can be incredibly effective especially on payload maps. He just needs protection. So if someone picks bastion, instead of getting angry at them, start trying to build a comp around it. Zarya, Winston, Rein, Orissa and Mercy are all good compliments to Bastion.

There is something that gets triggered in peoples brains when they get told to switch, especially before a game even starts. It becomes less about trying to play well with the team, and more about a direct challenge to their ability. They distance themselves from the team, and they will very rarely play well after that, regardless of the hero they play. Even if they switch, they will spite whoever took over what position they were playing and the spiral continues. Even if you are raging off mic, try and keep calm in the chat, and don't directly call people out unless to praise. Also, unless people are asking for advice, or constructive criticism, don't bother. This is the internet, and they will take it personally.
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To be completely honest man, at lower ranks- hell even master, the team comp really does not matter a whole lot. I have won games in master with 3 supports and 3 tanks, and 5 dps 1 healer etc... Every hero has the ability to be effective, and if you just try to strategize and play a game that would more compliment what people are choosing rather than trying to get people to change you will find you win more games.

Also, Hanzo is technically a defense character, and bastion on attack can be incredibly effective especially on payload maps. He just needs protection. So if someone picks bastion, instead of getting angry at them, start trying to build a comp around it. Zarya, Winston, Rein, Orissa and Mercy are all good compliments to Bastion.

There is something that gets triggered in peoples brains when they get told to switch, especially before a game even starts. It becomes less about trying to play well with the team, and more about a direct challenge to their ability. They distance themselves from the team, and they will very rarely play well after that, regardless of the hero they play. Even if they switch, they will spite whoever took over what position they were playing and the spiral continues. Even if you are raging off mic, try and keep calm in the chat, and don't directly call people out unless to praise. Also, unless people are asking for advice, or constructive criticism, don't bother. This is the internet, and they will take it personally.

I agree. Try not to say anything more than something generic like "Could anyone go second healer?" If you say "Hanzo could you go healer", or "Hanzo could you switch", you are reducing your teams chances of winning for absolutely no good reason. If Hanzo doesn't want to switch, he's not going to switch. You probably won't see these guys the next day, just focus on what you can do in the game, not what other people are doing. If nobody switches, you'll have to accept that you aren't getting a second healer that match. If you aren't getting a healer at all, I would consider picking one up yourself, or really learning where the health packs are, lol.

Beyond just picks, it's really best to ignore the performance of anyone else on your team. Don't get upset at your Mercy for dying instead of getting a res off, or Zarya getting a zero man graviton- you're trying to get better, not critique your teammates.

If you still find yourself stuck, I would record some gameplay and post it asking for some advice. Close games are usually the best for that, as a stomp either way can be hard to judge.
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guys. i consider myself a good player, but on my placement i have ppl disconnected and trolls, i have been placed in silver, and playing here is by far unpleasant, so, am i obligated to buy a another account just to rolls the dices and have better placement ? its gonna take me forever to rank up

I placed at 1501 beginning of season 5 and got to 2500+ by the end. Ranking up is possible, just forget about the losses and concentrate on winning the next game.

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If you really belong at another rank it doesn't take too long to adjust.The placements tend to not put you too far though, silver is probably accurate for now if it's your first placement.

^^This.

You might not win 10 games in a row, but it will average out with an increase in SR if you are performing well enough to rank up. For me I'd win like 2 - 4 in a row, then may lose 1 or 2, but if you keep that up, you climb pretty quickly.

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thats what i thought, but still, its horrible/imposible to play or enjoy the game this way, its like i want to stop playing. here some example, we are defending and ppl select macree, gengi, freaking hanzo.. TO DEFEND....! and u kindly ask to change and make a plan and they say no, or on attacking, ppl picks freaking bastion and so on, its a wate of time

When I was silver I played multiple games where our team played and won with 4 or 5 DPS, sometimes not even a healer.

If everyone on your team immediately picks DPS, then do the following:

  1. Pick another DPS (do NOT pick a healer*)
  2. Mute chat
  3. Concentrate on doing your best with that character.


Someone, if not a few people, will switch character when it starts going bad. It sounds toxic, but honestly it works.

* - If you pick a healer and your team is doing badly, they will tilt and try to blame you. If everyone is a DPS, then it's on them to change.

Some people make the mistake of thinking Silver and Gold is about sticking exactly to the meta. WRONG. Silver and Gold games 90% of the time boil down to which teams tilts first. The first team to tilt loses most of the time.

At Silver and Gold, most people don't use team comms, and if they do, they'll use it to flame. I had more luck just muting everything and tryharding. Stops me from tilting, stops them from tilting in response to me.
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