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D.Va seems now like a really hard counter to Pharah, it was it already but now you can fly against her and kill it very easy.

Very true. All of the good Pharah players have figured out that it’s really only safe to stay above the death fall areas and to pick someone else on maps that don’t have them. There aren’t many of those players yet, though.
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When you get a loss (and maybe tie idk), the system checks if you have played a total of 5 matches and not reached the higher skill tier, and demotes you if so. You do not need to have 5 losses, just 5 games below the skill tier. It will not derank you on a win, but that win will count towards the 5 games if it doesn't get you back.

I've been struggling in groups and have gotten demoted 4 times this season from diamond to plat, then solo'd back up just to get demoted with my groups again frown.gif. I normally don't solo on my main but I didn't like losing the Diamond, guess I'll have to get used to it if the group can't win at those SR. Last night I started at like 3007 and get demoted after we went 2W/3L.

This system was implemented at the start of season 6, so it's not something from the latest patch.

Hello, how is this mode to play "solo"to rank up again? Im think im getting cancer by playing with ppl who just dont even try and also the leavers are a joke, i mean, we should not lose that much sr point if we have a leaver.. i was demoted to gold after a lot of leavers and bad really bad ppl who take hanzo, mei and gengi as attackers, omg
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Hello, how is this mode to play "solo"to rank up again? Im think im getting cancer by playing with ppl who just dont even try and also the leavers are a joke, i mean, we should not lose that much sr point if we have a leaver.. i was demoted to gold after a lot of leavers and bad really bad ppl who take hanzo, mei and gengi as attackers, omg

You should watch some of the KarQ instructional videos. His message is that you can really only focus on yourself in a competitive match and don’t be negative at all about anything your team is doing. That matches my experience that toxicity loses more matches than lack of skill.

There’s really no way they can implement a lower SR loss for leavers. It would just be abused. For example, you and I are grouped up and it’s obvious we are going to lose the match for whatever reason. I leave the match and take the penalty and suspension just so that you don’t lose SR. That’s an exploit and it would be difficul, if not impossible, to prevent or punish.

Leavers you can’t do anything about. I did watch a match where MoonMoon won 5v6 because the team came together and really performed very well. It was epic to watch, but the point is that you shouldn’t give up on it as an impossible situation.

Hanzo, Mei, and Genji can all be good picks on attack. Again, focus on bringing your best possible game and coordinating with your team. Don’t tell people to switch heroes because you don’t like who they picked, especially before you’ve been in the first team fight. We had an attack Torb on Eichenwalde yesterday. Everyone in the lobby was telling him to switch because it wouldn’t work. I asked them to give him a chance to show us what he could do. This guy was awesome and we ended up winning and we all had armor packs the entire push. We made it to the second checkpoint before they finally stopped the payload.

My point is that you can only control you and that you should not bring any toxicity to the match, only your best gameplay.
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Yeah, Mei, Genji and Hanzo can all be viable if played well.

  • Mei - On assault maps, use ice walls to zone out their front line, e.g. Rein/ Orisa so your team can dive them and secure the kill. On payload maps, use the shield as a wall to hold the enemies back and push the payload in stages. Also to zone out people who try pushing aggressively, e.g. Reaper.
  • Hanzo - Can 1-shot most people with enough practice and a scatter arrow. The wallhack dart is useful for gathering information, especially when you're going to use ults e.g. doing a risky blind D'Va ult suddenly becomes a lot safer if you have Hanzo giving you information.
  • Genjo - Difficult, but you can bother them in their back lines a lot, focus healers and people who may be low health and retreating behind a Rein or Orisa.
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After being placed at about 2850, then lots of SR loss due to playing with much lower ranked friends, I've finally solo'd my way back up into Diamond! Over 500 SR in 4 days!

 

It was an epic fight on Eichenwalde and I was playing Mercy since my D.Va was taken. That didn't bother me because she was actually quite good. We totally back capped them on the second checkpoint; their Symmetra and Ana were spawn camping us so while a couple of us distracted them, D.Va just went up and over and pushed payload. Then on the final checkpoint we got a team wipe and walked it in. We ended up going 4 rounds; they had less than 10 seconds left on attack but they managed to cap it just in time to have another try. They capped but only got the payload to the first door around the corner. With 4+ minutes on the clock, they held us to overtime, but a Pharah ultimate helped clean them up. Well, that and their Sym screwed up and placed a shield generator instead of a teleporter. We held on and thanks to my Valkyrie they just weren't able to get us off the payload. Two other players went up to Diamond in that same match, and that's probably the most fun I've had on Overwatch in months!

 

Unrelated edit:

 

Since I got where I want to be on my main account (XBox), I decided to fire up the PC and see if I can get some loot boxes and maybe do some placement matches. Well, looks like that's a negative. Since I installed the game, Overwatch has been causing full system freezes. This PC can handle everything that I throw at it, from games to Folding@Home, with absolute stability. Only Overwatch seems to have a problem. I've Googled in vain and I can't find the answer. Anyone have any ideas on what could be causing it, and more importantly, how to solve it?


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I lost around 300 SR on my 2nd account for some reason.

Placed 2508 and after a lot of games I am in 2260 I do not know why but rank on SR around 2200-2400 is pretty hard if you do not have a good team.
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I lost around 300 SR on my 2nd account for some reason.

Placed 2508 and after a lot of games I am in 2260 I do not know why but rank on SR around 2200-2400 is pretty hard if you do not have a good team.

Don't beat yourself up. High gold is a mess and you have to be a lot better than the other people in that rank to get out of it or else play a lot of games given the variance at that elo.
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Worst elo to be at is by far masters. Everyone thinks they are better than they are, and a bunch of one trick ponies
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I don't know about that. Gold rank involves people being outright mutinous if you don't pick Mercy as one of the healers, and other such head scratchers like one person I encountered that had never played Soldier 76.
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Worst elo to be at is by far masters. Everyone thinks they are better than they are, and a bunch of one trick ponies

Interesting. Most people I've spoken to seem to think that Masters is actually a great elo to play at, especially in comparison to gold through mid-diamond. I'm not a masters player, nor have I ever been, so I can't speak to it.

But I will say that, IMO, as far as pure vitriol toxicity is concerned, high gold to low plat is the worst. This group will just rage on each other and say the most messed up crap. They all want to be good and think they are better than they are (this is the former COD player elo).

High plat to low diamond is 5 dps meta. Most of my games in this elo start with negotiating over team comp after getting 5 dps instalocks with a roadhog tank.

Mid-diamond has a lot of people who just don't say anything. People don't complain as much about hero picks. You can get away with a few games playing widow or hanzo in this elo.
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