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Right, it has to be like that. Soldier 76 should not be able to kill Roadhog 1v1. He's supposed to take at least some focus fire from multiple DPS, if you could kill him 1v1 he would melt instantly under focus fire and not be able to fulfill his role.

Right but what happens most of the time is I have the drop on him, his health has been very compromised, he hasn't put any damage on me, he drinks his healing potion while I'm still shooting at him, I still am at 200 HP just to get hooked and/or one banged by him.

This happens quite often. It would be one thing if there's a Mercy healing him. She's one of my primary targets.
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Right but what happens most of the time is I have the drop on him, his health has been very compromised, he hasn't put any damage on me, he drinks his healing potion while I'm still shooting at him, I still am at 200 HP just to get hooked and/or one banged by him.

This happens quite often. It would be one thing if there's a Mercy healing him. She's one of my primary targets.

Unfortunately the right strategy would be to back off out of hook range. You just can't take him on within range of his hook, You basically have a 30-40% chance of living or whatever the flip of his hook accuracy is.
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I have nothing constructive to add to the conversation, I play maybe two or three times a week just for giggles. But as someone who primarily plays Lucio, I love it when I manage to time my knockback just as Roadhog's hook deposits me in front of him and his shot goes wide. Once or twice I've even punted him off the map with that. The thought of the irritation on the other end makes me happy.
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I have nothing constructive to add to the conversation, I play maybe two or three times a week just for giggles. But as someone who primarily plays Lucio, I love it when I manage to time my knockback just as Roadhog's hook deposits me in front of him and his shot goes wide. Once or twice I've even punted him off the map with that. The thought of the irritation on the other end makes me happy.

Tip for Roadhog players to avoid this: You can hold left click as the hook pulls your target in, you will get the flak shot off before the hooked target can do anything.

Lucio can still survive the flak shot a lot of the time, since he gets pulled off center a lot. "Booping" after getting hooked has saved me a bunch as well.
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Most roadhogs, unless they are 70+ can be very easily juked to make them waste their hook, so for me nerfing its hitbox would be enough!
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I didn't know this until earlier today that d.va and absorb mei's ult. I kept wondering over and over again why every time I threw the ult it would just "disappear" until I asked in the chat and was told she absorbs it. I thought maybe it was a bug or something, but probably until the patch no one really played d.va. Makes throwing that ult a tad tougher since there's at least 1 d.va in every game now.
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Right but what happens most of the time is I have the drop on him, his health has been very compromised, he hasn't put any damage on me, he drinks his healing potion while I'm still shooting at him, I still am at 200 HP just to get hooked and/or one banged by him.

This happens quite often. It would be one thing if there's a Mercy healing him. She's one of my primary targets.

I think we all get it, you're taking a 1vs1 battle against a tank and coming into his range. That's exactly what a squishy isn't supposed to do. As a Soldier, if I'm going to 1vs1 a Roadhog, i'm always out of hook range and have no issues.
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Right but what happens most of the time is I have the drop on him, his health has been very compromised, he hasn't put any damage on me, he drinks his healing potion while I'm still shooting at him, I still am at 200 HP just to get hooked and/or one banged by him.

This happens quite often. It would be one thing if there's a Mercy healing him. She's one of my primary targets.

The part in bold guys. It doesn't matter how close I am one bit. No single character should be able to survive that. He can replenish his health while taking point blank damage faster than the damage received, not to mention doing so well after he's taken a substantial amount of damage.

Here's his reaction to my whooping him badly. He doesn't fire back and I have clearly put Lord only knows how much damage on him. He then proceeds to heal himself while still being shot.

It's not like we're squaring off in a 1 v 1 (I know better). He has taken a ridiculous amount of damage, heals while still continuing to take more damage just to hook and one shot. I'm sure he's eaten 800 HP easily at times.

You all sound very confident that you know what you're talking about and I look forward to playing with you all. I would very much like to see the team composition you guys offer with solutions to taking out particular targets in certain situations. That is NOT meant to be sarcastic either, I'm very serious.
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Not sure how else we can explain it to you.

If he isn't dead and can get a heal off, you as a player have to deal with that mechanic. By deal with I mean either damage him quicker than he can heal (which you can not) or increase your distance so you can continue to damage and be outside his hook range.

The point you are missing is his heal can be interrupted. You are playing a champ that can't interrupt but you chose to stand and bang with him.. get hooked and die.


His heal is 300 health. That would mean you would have to deal 300 - 500 health in the span of his heal. Not going to happen solo... in most cases.
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Whining about Roadhog like this is how we get broken buffs. Learn how to play the game and against RH, simple as that. If you're getting hook as Soldier, it's your own damn fault for not playing your roll correctly and acting like it's COD. Soldier isn't and never has been a close range killer. He's great at taking down everyone's health bar at a distance so those who play closer up can finish them off. I usually have roadhogs change off of them because I target him almost exclusively as Soldier, he's a huge target, even with his spread almost everything is going to hit him.

Just because someone is awesome at playing him and figuring out how to get closer to you to hook you, doesn't mean Roadhog is broken, it's you need to learn how to counter him. As Ninhalem said above, the minute I see a Zenyatta on the other team when I'm as RH, I don't even bother continue playing him cause I know that I'm going to get crapped all over with the orbs cause of how large of a target I am.

I play RH the same way I played Pudge on DOTA. I always go off to the sides, behind them or around corners to keep myself as hidden as possible but still able to hunt. Play him as a ganker instead of a tank.
Edited by SpykeZ - 7/27/16 at 2:25pm
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