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So I thought I would post my thoughts on the PTR nerfs and buffs after being salty all day.
First the Head hitbox thing, I'm completely fine with it. It does seem smaller than before, though.
D.va, Her defense matrix nerf is welcomed. It should resolve the issue in a lot of games with D.va just spamming it constantly.
Hanzo, I'm really liking the changes made with his bow but this will mean a lot more people who will pick him all the time in all matches.
Mei didn't really need any sort of buff. Just seems like Blizzard wants to have all their heroes have equal play time.
Mcree's changes make sense since pretty much all heroes lose their ult charge if it fails or when you're killed.
Nothing too much has changed with Mercy so I'll move onto the hero with the biggest nerf, Genji.
I've started playing Genji more over the last couple weeks so I'm full of salt and I think the change to his Dragon Blade is fine since he swings 7 times instead of 9 but some changes don't make sense at all. Not being able to destroy Widow traps with his dash doesn't make sense since it can kill other heroes. It's fine if he gets caught in Junkrat's trap though since that is what its supposed to do. His triple jump nerf should not have happened since it makes up a lot of his mobility. The melee combo nerf should not have happened as well since it makes it extremely hard to win 1v1s. I also have a prediction that Genji's shuriken will get a damage boost in the next balance patch if the ones in the PTR make its way to the full game.
No Idea why Lucio needed a nerf but hey its Blizzard.
Zenyatta's changes are nice. Kinda saw it coming.
Roadhog's hook is just a mess honestly.
I like the majority of the buffs/ nerfs but Genji's went too far. This feels like when Mcree got his initial nerf and made him close to useless but then they buffed his damage to make him useful again. I think if Blizzard is going to limit his mobility, they need to increase his damage output or lower his cooldown on his dash or deflect.
Edit: I also think that Genji isn't unplayable now, He just requires even more skill now.
Edited by Wovermars1996 - 8/18/16 at 1:17am
post #842 of 2285
They'll never get it right which is why I uninstalled it. They're doing the same crap they do with Diablo , keep screwing around with everything cause they're bored and have no idea what they're doing. People complain about one small issue them they rewrite the entire character. We asked for small changes with D.va, they went and changed her ult not killing her and made her matrix spammable. We complain about Ginjis ult, they change a bunch of other crap. They can't seem to just make minor adjustments till they get it just right, no let's change everything at once and make it harder to find the middle ground
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They'll never get it right which is why I uninstalled it. They're doing the same crap they do with Diablo , keep screwing around with everything cause they're bored and have no idea what they're doing. People complain about one small issue them they rewrite the entire character. We asked for small changes with D.va, they went and changed her ult not killing her and made her matrix spammable. We complain about Ginjis ult, they change a bunch of other crap. They can't seem to just make minor adjustments till they get it just right, no let's change everything at once and make it harder to find the middle ground
They've also made it much harder to be Pharah since Hanzo can chest shot "Headshot" her out of the sky now.
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They've also made it much harder to be Pharah since Hanzo can chest shot "Headshot" her out of the sky now.

Not to mention its back to needing to barely aim for headshot and faster ones at that. This better never leave ptr...
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They'll never get it right which is why I uninstalled it. They're doing the same crap they do with Diablo , keep screwing around with everything cause they're bored and have no idea what they're doing. People complain about one small issue them they rewrite the entire character. We asked for small changes with D.va, they went and changed her ult not killing her and made her matrix spammable. We complain about Ginjis ult, they change a bunch of other crap. They can't seem to just make minor adjustments till they get it just right, no let's change everything at once and make it harder to find the middle ground

We saw Blizz preview 1 new level @ gamescon. Whoop-de-doo. rolleyes.gif They seem to be more interested in us buying lootboxes honestly. Like you, instead of multiple frequent character tweaks, i'd rather have more new levels and game modes. Sorry for not being on as i still like the game. I havent been playing much of anything in general. I do miss playing with you guys/gals. smile.gif
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Not to mention its back to needing to barely aim for headshot and faster ones at that. This better never leave ptr...
Knowing Blizzard they'll put it in the full game only to remove it later and then re-add it and so on.
I honestly don't know who to play now since Hanzo will kill everyone no problem now and Genji is now an entirely different hero. Thanks rank 40s on Reddit who don't know how to switch to Winston.
Also if the nerf with Genji makes it through into the full game, in a couple months we'll have a video with Jeff Kaplan saying that they're either going to increase his damage or reduce his cooldown on his deflect or reverse the changes made except for the ult duration one because Genji became one of the least picked heroes after the nerf.
Edited by Wovermars1996 - 8/18/16 at 8:30am
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As with any game that will focus heavily on "competitive" they will keep making changes like this rather than small tweaks to "balance" things. I would rather the game be ever changing and go through highs and lows with heroes because an attempt to actually balance the game will make it stale, and as always will leave people complaining regardless. The issue lies when they make these absurd changes that just don't make sense.
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As with any game that will focus heavily on "competitive" they will keep making changes like this rather than small tweaks to "balance" things. I would rather the game be ever changing and go through highs and lows with heroes because an attempt to actually balance the game will make it stale, and as always will leave people complaining regardless. The issue lies when they make these absurd changes that just don't make sense.
You are very true with the absurd changes that don't make sense. Nerfing his Ult time and making it so he couldn't pass through Junkrat's traps made sense but taking away his mobility doesn't make sense.
It's like taking away Tracer's ability to blink and recall because she's too mobile or Taking away Pharah's ability to fly because she's too mobile.
Here's the thing, People will always complain about Genji. I tried him in the PTR today and I still get constant 4 players and 5 players kill with his ult so to me that just proves that Genji was never the problem.
People just don't want to switch off of Hanzo onto Winston to counter him.
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You are very true with the absurd changes that don't make sense. Nerfing his Ult time and making it so he couldn't pass through Junkrat's traps made sense but taking away his mobility doesn't make sense.
It's like taking away Tracer's ability to blink and recall because she's too mobile or Taking away Pharah's ability to fly because she's too mobile.
Here's the thing, People will always complain about Genji. I tried him in the PTR today and I still get constant 4 players and 5 players kill with his ult so to me that just proves that Genji was never the problem.
People just don't want to switch off of Hanzo onto Winston to counter him.

I'm not a Winston player so how does he counter Genji?
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I'm not a Winston player so how does he counter Genji?
Genji is extremely vulnerable while he is just walking around. His Tesla cannon does a lot of damage to a Genji that doesn't have his dash and even if he dashes away, Winston can just jump straight to him and finish him off. Zarya is also a good counter. A smart Genji will not want to shoot her shield since it'll power her up and kill you faster if you're stuck on the ground. Mei is another great counter since she'll probably freeze you faster than you can escape. Roadhog can one shot you as soon as he hooks you so another counter. Mcree is another counter since his flashbang will stop a Genji in his place and just needs to finish him off with either a right click or a left click headshot.
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