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Yeah, nowhere, just like linux.

Linux has the mobile space because of Google, not because of haxor1337linuxDev. Besides, why is it a monopoly for MS to have "conquered" the desktop space for OS, but its perfectly ok that Google with Android, have done the same with the mobile space.

Not saying Google gets a free pass, they don't. But, they do get a pass on their path. They're an advertising company that expanded their advertising market into mobile using the linux codebase. Google have always been an advertising company. You know what you're gonna get from the "Do no evil" company: Data-mined to hell and more advertising. That's also why I personally don't use any of their advertising platforms.

Microsoft on the other hand, were born in a gentler time, when software was a thing and the internet wasn't. Yes, they got their start by basically stealing Q&D DOS and reselling it to IBM, but still they developed as a software house providing an OS that could support a wondrous and varied software ecosystem.

However, now Microsoft is in a tough place spot - #1 in a market on a downward trend. They missed the datamine-you-to-hell mobile train and as is their style have overreacted, just as they missed the internet and overreacted. M$ have virtually zero market share in the still growing mobile space and to compensate they need to punish, spy on and aggregate their longtime desktop customers. They desperately need those one billion Windows 10 users captured, mined and resold to advertisers.

They will also fail miserably at it, as is their style. Possibly by the 3rd or 4th iteration they might find a balanced path between trampling over their user's system and locking in a solid advertising revenue stream.

That's my objection. I purchased an OS. I did not willingly signup for the OS to morph into datamining-to-hell ad service on the desktop. As a content creator, the Win 10 EULA is absolutely chilling. They grant themselves a royalty-free license to any content on their your system. In exchange for using their badly coded and poorly tested OS 'enhancements'. No thanks.

There's free and then there's IP theft. Microsoft just granted themselves a license to steal from their users. Sure, just like FB and all the social media platforms, but it's easy to stay off FB. A little harder to stay off your OS. Unless it's you, LoLomgbbq and Linux. tongue.gif

When my Win7 boxes are EOL. I'll pull them offline and continue to use them. For other online tasks will pick a flavor of Linux that suits my needs or worse, use OSX. Microsoft doesn't give a poo about me and now the feeling is mutual.

Or...I can spend 5x as much to get their 'Enterprise" edition because big business can opt out of the data-mine gravy train. Or so we're led to believe.

PS - Apple got their last decade success from nix - BSD - proving that two evils can make a right (for shareholders) richest company in the world.

Soon we're going to be paying M$py for the pleasure of being spied upon and have everything stolen from us.

 

To hell with them.

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Linux is such a joke that even M$py run it on their servers. You couldn't possibly fail more, could you?

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4962
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsserver/2015/05/06/microsoft-loves-linux/

As ive already said, id never question Linux server side. Desktop OS however, is another story all together.
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Linux is such a joke that even M$py run it on their servers. You couldn't possibly fail more, could you?

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4962
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsserver/2015/05/06/microsoft-loves-linux/

As ive already said, id never question Linux server side. Desktop OS however, is another story all together.

The majority of people only use their PC's as internet machines. Linux can do that even better than Windows as it's lighter and faster. What Linux can't do as well is run games and Adobe products.

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For browsing the internet, music, movies, etc. use Linux. If you still want to play games not available for Linux, then dual boot and use it only for gaming. Don't store personal info there, don't use it to browse the internet, consider it as a compromised system. Personally I don't play games that much anymore so I no longer use Windows.
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The majority of people only use their PC's as internet machines. Linux can do that even better than Windows as it's lighter and faster. What Linux can't do as well is run games and Adobe products.

Now you're being ridiculous.

Unless you're still sitting on Win XP running and intel celeron with onboard gfx, you're OS isnt holding back your internet browsing speed.

If you clutch those straws any harder, you'll end up hurting yourself.
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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

If you don't want anything to do with Win 10, just download GWX Control Panel. It's super easy, and allows you to completely nuke win 10 updates, remove win 10 files, remove the annoying tray icon, and more. I have used it on 5 machines. It's free.

To add to this, on any freshly installed copy of 7 or 8, TURN OFF RECOMMENDED UPDATES BEFORE CONNECTING TO THE INTERNET TO PERFORM INITIAL UPDATES.




I have been doing this on every 7 or 8 install I come across since Sept. of last year and I have yet to see a single Win 10 pop up on any machine with this setting disabled.
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Seriously, if you guys have so much problems with MS doing things like this why do you buy or use their products? It only gives them the signal that people will accept this and they'll continue down this path. Seriously, if people wanted to change MS's mind very fast they would just start using alternative OSes. Why don't consumers ever do their part?

I am curious though how MS is going to make money if no one buys Win10 (or are they just going to rely on OEMs paying them for it)?

I put everybody that wants me to build them a computer on Linux Mint because I ain't got time to play hippity hop at the M$ shop
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Thou shall bow before your new master : Windows 10 Spy Edition
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The majority of people only use their PC's as internet machines. Linux can do that even better than Windows as it's lighter and faster. What Linux can't do as well is run games and Adobe products.

Now you're being ridiculous.

Unless you're still sitting on Win XP running and intel celeron with onboard gfx, you're OS isnt holding back your internet browsing speed.

If you clutch those straws any harder, you'll end up hurting yourself.

The only person clutching here is you, at that bridge you live under.

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If Intel does a free upgrade let me know.

I will. Or better, I won't, because it won't happen. There are no such things as free lunches.

If there were you'd be getting exactly the same kind of rights and options you have with previous versions of Windows, but you aren't.


Related to the story in the OP is the fact that they are only able to schedule and carry through an automatic upgrade without any sort of user intervention because they are unethical enough to put the EULA acceptance screen AFTER Windows 10 has been installed, counting on the fact that rolling back to the previous OS will cost people time and money, hoping that some thus won't. It's essentially putting people against a wall and telling them about the fine print after the fact. Microsoft is only breaking people's trust and patience with these underhanded tactics.
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