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If you have Windows 10 and you are happy with it, I'm happy for you. May you have a beautiful life together. Not all of us want it.

Let's pretend that Microsoft builds cars.
A few years ago, you plunked down your hard earned cash and bought one. It has served you well. You are happy with the one you bought. It's been reliable, it gets you from point A to point B and it starts every morning without issue.
But, now there is a shinier, newer model. All of their aggressive marketing has failed to sway you toward adopting the new model.
The fine print says that if you use the new MSAuto, you are required to buy their brand of fuel. You are also required to buy tires from MSAuto. All aftermarket parts must be MSAuto approved. The GPS, that they include for free, sends back information to MSAuto about where you drive, how many miles you drive, when you drive and where you shop,
MSAuto is not at all pleased that you haven't made the switch, so they decide to stop servicing the older models earlier than promised.
You still won't budge, so now MSAuto sends someone out in the dead of night to tow your old one away and leave a new one in it's place. Totally "free". But, you have parked yours in the garage and they can't get to it.
Now they are really angry, so they start stalking you and constantly telling you that you need to upgrade for your own safety.
Still, you won't switch.
The next tactic is to pour sugar in your gas tank to wreck the one you are holding onto.

Nice business model. To me, it sounds suspiciously like the Apple business model.
Edited by Jack13 - 5/25/16 at 5:58am
post #132 of 237
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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post

Windows isn't the only choice for us. There are the various flavors of Linux, for example. Heck, I go with Mac before I would go with Win 10.

So, what share of the steam hardware survey shows machines running Linux, again? And what has the trend been?

Yeah. You do you, but the rest of us will be over here in reality.
post #133 of 237
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Originally Posted by LoLomgbbq View Post

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Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

Sure...

Screenshot taken 1 minute ago.

Windows 17644 games across ~700 pages says hello, then theres GOG and the many thousands of games never added to either service.

Linux, since its inception, 26 years ago, has only 4500 games (the majority of which are a bunch of throw away indie trash) and you want to act like its the next big thing?

Even Linux' creator has gone on record to say that linux has succeed everywhere except the one place he set out for it to do so - the desktop.

Do you really need to play all ~20,000 games at once?
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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post

Windows isn't the only choice for us. There are the various flavors of Linux, for example. Heck, I go with Mac before I would go with Win 10.

So, what share of the steam hardware survey shows machines running Linux, again? And what has the trend been?

Yeah. You do you, but the rest of us will be over here in reality.

Reality doesn't discriminate.
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I will. Or better, I won't, because it won't happen. There are no such things as free lunches.

If there were you'd be getting exactly the same kind of rights and options you have with previous versions of Windows, but you aren't.


Related to the story in the OP is the fact that they are only able to schedule and carry through an automatic upgrade without any sort of user intervention because they are unethical enough to put the EULA acceptance screen AFTER Windows 10 has been installed, counting on the fact that rolling back to the previous OS will cost people time and money, hoping that some thus won't. It's essentially putting people against a wall and telling them about the fine print after the fact. Microsoft is only breaking people's trust and patience with these underhanded tactics.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

What you were saying again? There you have the EULA that you can look through whenever you want.

It wouldn't be a good MS bash thread without you huh.

Always got a seat reserved in first class. lachen.gif
post #135 of 237
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Originally Posted by CSCoder4ever View Post

Reality doesn't discriminate.

I'm sorry, I must have missed where that article has any actual evidence to substantiate its claims.

"There are almost certainly more Linux gamers than ever" - according to what? Your warm, fuzzy feelings of sticking it to The Man? Oh, wait:

" On the other hand, it’s the best information we have as there are no alternative reports of its kind. "
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Not everyone is a gamer.

But some are desperate shills.

 

Now the thread has turned into the usual demeaning nonsense spread by the shills.

 

Unlike some I value my liberty. Those who prefer to live in a gulag are welcome to, they won't have to wait long the way the Western world is going.

 

Goodbye thread.

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But some are desperate shills.

Now the thread has turned into the usual demeaning nonsense spread by the shills.

Unlike some I value my liberty. Those who prefer to live in a gulag are welcome to, they won't have to wait long the way the Western world is going.

Goodbye thread.

I'm sorry, but using an operating system for your computer that sends more information than you would like is not living in a gulag.
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I'm sorry, but using an operating system for your computer that sends more information than you would like is not living in a gulag.

Brah, MS is like..literally Hitler.rolleyes.gif
post #139 of 237
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Originally Posted by LoLomgbbq View Post

Windows 17644 games across ~700 pages says hello, then theres GOG and the many thousands of games never added to either service.

Linux, since its inception, 26 years ago, has only 4500 games (the majority of which are a bunch of throw away indie trash) and you want to act like its the next big thing?

Even Linux' creator has gone on record to say that linux has succeed everywhere except the one place he set out for it to do so - the desktop.


Tell me how many games Linux had five years ago. It has grown immensely. The point is, it will only get better. If you want to compare it with Windows and DOS which carry a bigger legacy, you should take that into consideration too.

In any case, if you are going to include so called "indie trash" on the Linux side, you might as well do the same on the PC side.

All in all my post wast to counter with some facts your exaggerated image that it will only get six more games in the next five years.


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So, what share of the steam hardware survey shows machines running Linux, again? And what has the trend been?

Yeah. You do you, but the rest of us will be over here in reality.


People using Steam in Big Picture Mode still haven't been shown the opt in for the survey. And Steam OS is running in Big Picture Mode all the time too.


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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

What you were saying again? There you have the EULA that you can look through whenever you want.

It wouldn't be a good MS bash thread without you huh.

Always got a seat reserved in first class. lachen.gif


And how does that in any way solve the ethics problem? People who have been clicking the close button before don't want Windows 10. Why is the EULA only being shown to them after it's been installed? Not to mention that the EULA has had 3 different versions since Windows 10 came to the market. Are people supposed to keep checks on that page from time to time to know the updated conditions just in case Microsoft decides to put ethics aside and not show it to them when installing an OS they didn't want?
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Steve Gibson's Never10 vs. Josh Mayfield's GWX Control Panel

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049165/microsoft-windows/steve-gibsons-never10-vs-josh-mayfields-gwx-control-panel.html

Anyway which one do you prefer to use?
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