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Originally Posted by AuraNova View Post

On the flip side of things, more and more of that same general public is becoming more aware. The world is getting "smaller" in that respect. With more news outlets and inside sources appearing in every facet of life, people are at least understanding what they are being suckered into. Hence, the whole thing with Win10. Even my Mom, who is one of the most computer illiterate people I know, knows about Win10 and its pressing to update and privacy issues. I don't even have to tell her about not updating. She already knows.

Consider the following scenario being played out by yourself and then avg joe:
  1. Search "ThingIWant download"
  2. Click one of many search results
  3. See big flashing DOWNLOAD! button with little tiny genuine download link obscured among ads

Outcome 1:
You would laugh at that big flashing DOWNLOAD! link (thats if it managed to get through your ad-blocker) and click the genuine link to the side.

Outcome 2:
avg joe clicks away, installs toolbar or random exe with its ad injecting software and now they're infected (the computer i mean..tongue.gif)

Now consider this same scenario when it comes to updating OS's. People know they can just click windows update and let it do its thing and not worry (for the most part, not ignoring the issues of late and why this thread was made), when it comes to being infected with ads/toolbars/viruses and so on.

How would you prevent this with the avg joe on Linux? Once the top 3, 5 or 10 linux distros have been decided by the masses, those with ill intent are going to find ways to make the OS update equivalent to the DOWNLOAD! button. While keeping in mind that MS is pretty much doing just that, at least its not from some random dude on the net looking to crypto lock your pc for cash.
post #212 of 237
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Originally Posted by LoLomgbbq View Post

How would you prevent this with the avg joe on Linux? Once the top 3, 5 or 10 linux distros have been decided by the masses, those with ill intent are going to find ways to make the OS update equivalent to the DOWNLOAD! button. While keeping in mind that MS is pretty much doing just that, at least its not from some random dude on the net looking to crypto lock your pc for cash.

Here's the thing. I am in agreement with you for the most part when it comes to the "average joe" and their usage. One would have to know that convenience trumps all when it comes to ANYTHING. Not just computers. I deal with that on a regular basis as a hi-fi enthusiast.

Let me flip that on you. How would you prevent this with the average Joe on Windows? You run the same risk, believe it or not. While I mentioned most of the people i know just use a simple Windows-based PC or Mac, those same people know what Linux is. For some, the idea of Linux scares them. Like I said before, many people aren't hands-on with their OS. These are, as we say, your average Joe. Most people aren't that intuitive. While the general public are becoming more aware, many of these people don't want to deal with anything. They just want what works out of the box. You have to also keep in mind there are still people out there that can't even use Google (as in my Dad's case), let alone even know how to run Windows.

EDIT: I remembered something else.

I understand the metaphor that "Mr bbq" put forth. But to me, it didn't make too much sense. Also, I'm tired. lol

Even with Windows, there are things that you have to manually update. Windows Update doesn't update everything. This would require some extent of knowing what to search for if one wanted to update their programs/apps and stuff they eventually added on. Everything is still reliant on the user.
Edited by AuraNova - 5/27/16 at 1:02am
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spybot anti-beacon solved this problem plenty of videos on youtube to elaborate on this
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Just wondering (as I haven't allowed an auto update since it was initially started), does the installer still reset all services to what M$ deems they should be as opposed to what you have set them as? And does it still change security settings and levels without your consent?
post #215 of 237
This happened to me...I thought I exited the update, and it began with the installation process...I essentially was tricked into it. I also lost data, because I was in the middle of a project....I'm not very happy about this.
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Just wondering (as I haven't allowed an auto update since it was initially started), does the installer still reset all services to what M$ deems they should be as opposed to what you have set them as? And does it still change security settings and levels without your consent?

No it doesn't change the Services, I myself Disable the Windows Update Service in the ISO before installing, It always stays Disabled.
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There are many reasons not to upgrade, lots of peripherals don't work or are not compatible with Windows 10 drivers, I had trouble with one of my USB devices.
Anyway the latest pop up x, Microsoft probably just needed a market survey on how many more people out there they can get to, then use that information to... tongue.gif
     
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There are many reasons not to upgrade, lots of peripherals don't work or are not compatible with Windows 10 drivers...

The same is true of software. Win 10 has also dropped some features that some people depend on, such as Windows Media Center.
     
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Microsoft Now Annoys Its Chinese Users with Surprise Windows 10 Upgrades
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Windows users in China are criticizing the software giant for forcibly making them upgrade to Windows 10. Users have made over 1.2 million posts complaining about the operating system on the Chinese microblog site Weibo.
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Microsoft is facing criticism from its Chinese users of Windows operating system as the company has forced people into upgrading to its latest Windows 10 OS. The official Xinhua news agency reported on Friday, that over 1.2 million posts critical of Microsoft’s ways of pushing Windows 10 have appeared on Weibo. Zhao Zhanling, a legal advisor with the Internet Society of China said that users or consumer protection organizations have the right to file lawsuits against the company since it did not respect users’ right to choose when they want to install updates on their PCs, and may have profited from these unwanted upgrades.
 
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Considering the OS has a 90% probability of being pirated. If the proposed litigation is heard in a Chinese court, these pirates will probably have 'rights'. doh.gif
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