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There are plenty of reasons to use old technology. One, if it's not broken, it doesn't need to be fixed. Second, legacy systems. Many industries still rely on software that only works on old technology. Would it be ideal to upgrade, sure, but it's not always feasible. 

My favorite moderator telling me about how how old garbage isn't really garbage. I hope MS just blocks all non-enterprise licensing after the 29th and tells everyone they should have upgraded for free when they had the chance. And for the record, windows 7 is broken. If it wasn't MS wouldn't have fixed it FOR FREE.

FREE my Aunt Fanny Mae! That "free" update comes at the cost of more loss of privacy, a constantly changing OS that may (and already has) render perfectly good older software and hardware obsolete, etc. The training costs for enterprises will be staggering.
     
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How does anyone wanting to stick with Windows 7 affect you? Really. Tell me. There are many reasons someone would want to stick with Win7 beyond all of the privacy issues. It's not about a tinfoil hat. It's as simple as saying "no thank you" and walking away.

Also, please don't post inflammatory posts. I'm not sure why you need to take a tone like that.

We've established, multiple times, on this very forum that, there are not any actual privacy issues with the information that Windows 10 relays back to the "mothership".

All of the above information is mined from your ISP and every single node, the moment the packet leaves the 4 corners of your residence.

Nobody on this forum has yet to prove that Windows 10 is any more invasive than the alternatives already being used on the www.

Only those ignorant to the internet, itself have privacy "issues" with Windows 10 considering the above.

No, that hasn't been established.
     
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I feel you.
Microsoft is not exempt from anything.

The reality is that your ISP gathers the same exact data on the first node.

Firefox, gathers the same exact data on the first node.

Chrome, gathers the same exact data on the first node.

The reality isn't "they do it too", it's "EVERYONE IS DOING IT"...Everyone. Literally every ISP I can name, every single retailer and their products, every single phone and browser...

Instead of facing reality, you take aim at the one service (Windows is not an OS anymore, it's now a SERVICE) that reports the LEAST AMOUNT OF ALL OF THEM back to their house entity. - It's insanity.

There is absolutely no reason not to upgrade to W10 based on privacy. Unless you have a phobia of reality, that is.

Speaking from an insider's perspective I can say that what Microsoft collects is but a shadow of Google and Apple. These two are capable of building an entire personal profile on a person based solely on the activities said person does on their phone, let alone a desktop environment. Your phone is everything that is you: where you go, how much you spend, who you call and when and how often and for how long, when you go to sleep (based on an approximation of your final charge hookup for the night), when you wake up, your movements, etc, etc, etc.

I'm not saying it's okay and I'm not saying it's not okay - I'm just saying that everyone does it. We have to accept it (for now, or just not use whatever "it" is) until better regulation somehow makes its way through Big Government (which it likely won't) that better protects the end-user.

In the meantime, Microsoft is about the only company out there that is being overt in what they want and who they want it from. Google and Apple and every single cell phone carrier and ISP on the face of the earth are covert and mask want they want behind pages and pages of EULA - undoubtedly written in legalease - with the reasonable expectation that very few people will ever read it.

Why bash Microsoft for what they do and nobody else?

Complain about them all or complain about none at all. Don't single one out for what others do.

Edit: Not saying you specifically Masked are complaining.. your post just seemed like a good jumping point for mine. thumb.gif

What makes you think we don't bash the others? Just a fact we used Windows is a testament to us not wanting the privacy issues or walled gardens of the others. What we resent is Win 10 taking away what we had with Win 7.
     
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Windows has more in common with malware every day it seems.
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Windows has more in common with malware every day it seems.

You got that right!
     
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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

If you don't want anything to do with Win 10, just download GWX Control Panel. It's super easy, and allows you to completely nuke win 10 updates, remove win 10 files, remove the annoying tray icon, and more. I have used it on 5 machines. It's free.

I know right. I installed this and haven't looked back. I just laugh when I keep seeing these threads pop back up.
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If Windows 10 is outright amazing, then how come M$ is using this tactic and similar tactics in the past to get as many people on board as possible?
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If Windows 10 is outright amazing, then how come M$ is using this tactic and similar tactics in the past to get as many people on board as possible?

Because all those internet infesting peasants, can't appreciate the marvel that lies on their feet and thus, they need an experienced, caring and loving hand, to help them make the right decision. lachen.gif
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If Windows 10 is outright amazing, then how come M$ is using this tactic to get as many people on board as possible?

And there, folks, is the crucial point. Instead of designing Win 10 to be good enough to make people want to change from Win 7 or Win 8.x, they designed it to meet MS' greed and resorted to the sneaky, deceptive, underhanded tactics being used to make their goal of one billion users, a goal they needed to achieve after the comparative market flops Win 8.x were.
     
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To the #never10 crowd, how long do you seriously expect to be able to keep this up?
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